What are these shadows?

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What are these shadows?

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Lately I've been getting severe daily headaches, so I started practicing more meditation and concentration to see if I can stop them, or at least find out what's causing them. For as long as I can remember, I have been able to see fast-moving black things running across floors, walls, ceilings, tables - any flat surface, though I can only see them out of the corner of my eye. They are a little larger than a softball, and have rat-shaped bodies, but no tails, and they run so quickly that I have never been able to tell if they have legs or feet or faces, but they move in the same way rats do. (Though I have never seen a real rat run on the ceiling before...) Because of these qualities, I refer to them as Blackrats in my head. Since I've started meditating, I've been seeing them more and more frequently - I have already seen two while I've been typing this out. I just explained seeing the Blackrats to my mother last night, and she said we might get my eyes checked later.

Another shadow-thing I have been seeing a lot of lately is a male figure, he is tall, with a very lean buid. He stands in the north-west corner of my bedroom. Or rather, he did stand in the north-west corner of my room - for about a week or so, I have seen him pacing back and forth, almost prowling, and he would stop to look over at me every minuite or so. He seems to be most active around 2:30 am. Three nights ago, I decided to try to figure out what it was, so I rolled over to look at him directly. (Until then, I had only watched anxiously out of my perifery.) He stood still, and then drew himself up to his full hieght, (which was about 7' 10", give or take) and disappeared. A second later, I felt a hand on my right side, just above my hip. It was much hotter than a human hand would've been. It scared me so badly that I burst into tears, and started praying for protection. He left after that, and I had to lie very still for a while before I worked up the courage to run from the room. I have become so distressed by this figure that I am sleeping on the couch, and I have not set foot in my bedroom after dark since then. I also avoid spending long periods of time there during daylight hours. What am I seeing, and what should I do about it?
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I have been considering trying to channel the shadow-man through automatic writing. I don't think he's really malevolent, he's just very unsettling, because I am not used to being able to see something like him so clearly, and I have never phsyically felt one before this incident. If anybody could give me some adivice or their opinions about this, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Contents of this post:
-I. See a Doctor
-II. "Shadows"
-III. Effects of Meditation and Drugs
-IV. Claim Your Spiritual Space
-V. Claim Your Physical Space
-VI. Develop Hygiene Skills
-VII. Work with Guides

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I. See a Doctor

Hi. Well, you should start with the physical before assigning this to being anything supernatural. It'd be good to eliminate that it, in fact, isn't your eyes playing tricks on you, as your mother suggested. That's part of your physical equipment. Since eyes are instruments of perception, and perception is carried out by the brain, that piece of physical equipment, your brain, needs to be examined, too, to rule out all possible causes for what you think you're seeing. It might be some kind of stress that you're under that you're not mentioning here (that you may not even realize is stressing you), or a chemical imbalance that could be corrected with medication (as much as I hate perscription medication of any sort, and really don't have any trust in modern medicine, plagued by greed for pharmeceutical income as I believe it is). Seeing a doctor is a necessary evil in my opinion, but still necessary nonetheless.

In any event, this article on my blog written by a remote viewing instructor describes how stress has been known to contribute to increased psychic ability: Psychic Ability Relates to Survival Instinct. Many of today's top psychics had traumatic experiences, in some cases near-death experiences, such as Dannion Brinkley for instance, who was struck by lightning: Dannion Brinkley's Near Death Experience. I could name several others.

You especially need a thorough exam to find out what the headaches are from. I knew a girl who died of a brain aneurysm, none of us saw it coming. She just had a headache one day, and died that same day. So headaches like that are nothing to play with, especially if you keep having them.

Don't think that meditation is going to get to the bottom of what's causing them. That's not what "meditation and concentration" are for, to diagnose physical ailments. That's what doctors are for (as much as I can't stand them) so see a doctor immediately. In fact, honestly, until you get a handle on your health, I would recommend you cease from meditating for now. I can't believe I'm telling someone not to meditate, as big a proponent for meditation as I am. But you're using it improperly, and I don't believe it is helping you at the moment. You need to stabilize your health, and you need training in meditation once you do.




II. "Shadows"

If you can successfully rule out a physical or mental root cause for what you're seeing, only then consider a spiritual cause for it. There are all manner of beings in nonphysical form all around us at any given moment. They have a right to be here as we do, in my opinion, and some of us are more sensitive to their presence than others. There are the angels and passed-over humans which get a lot of press. But there are the lower-level beings who don't get any press. They're not so glamorous. Some of them are not even sentient necessarily, they just exist, like little rodents, and generally feed off low level energies around us, including that which we emit. They especially feed off strong emotions, like scavengers feed off road kill or trash dumpsters. They're not trying to harm us, though they irritate or frighten some of us as much as flies or physical "rats" might. They also like the stagnant energy of messy environments, where the energy is pooled into little eddies, like sea water eddies between rock formations at the beach. So cleaning your room and your house helps dispel them, as well. There's some truth to "dust bunnies," and other wives tales.




III. Effects of Meditation and Drugs

Again, we can look to the physical partly, in this consideration as well. The physical act of undergoing a regular meditation practice increases any psychic ability we naturally have already. Meditation is a powerful tool; use it carefully, and understand the consequences when you do: your abilities will increase. There's no maybes about that. I've been meditating regularly since 2002, and I would concur with that point of view. If you are seeing these things, which would mean your primary ability is probably clairvoyance (we have primary, secondary, etc.), then that clairvoyance would be enhanced due to regular meditation. If someone's primary was clairaudience, his clairaudience would be increased, and so on. This has been known since ancient times. For instance, in India there are Sanskrit terms for all the psychic abilities which we know of now, and I mention this in this blog post: Psychic Ability in Yoga.

Chemicals can enhance innate psychic ability, too. I stopped drinking completely because of my increased sensitivity to seeing things, in this case dark grey creatures similar to your description, but larger. Like Dannion mentioned in the video, I began seeing and hearing everything around me whether I wanted to or not, including the lower-level entities, so I would avoid going to crowded places until I learned to control it. I'm not half as psychically sensitive as he is, I don't see half the things he sees, but I do remember once in a bar after a couple martinis I saw dark grey things stepping in and out of peoples' auras all evening. They'd jump from one person to another, trying to see who had emotions they could feed on, who was the most vulnerable, who they could resonate with the most, depending on what they were already resonating themselves, trying to find a "match" they could hitchhike on and go home with. Bleh, I'll never forget that.

In paranormal circles, we'd actually call them "hitchhikers." So if someone says, "hmm, looks like she's got a hitchhiker or two," we know immediately what that means. They can nestle into your energy and stay there for years, feeding until you got nothing left. If you look into the eyes of long term crack heads or meth users, there's just vacuousness. They got nothing left. They're almost not even human anymore. They carry an apartment complex of hitchhikers on them every day. I see it all the time. They're just landlords to low-level entities, and there's no soul dwelling in their bodies anymore, or at most only fragments of one that did. The rest of their soul parts sensed that body wasn't a good place to be in, and left.

Now I don't like bars to this day, and I don't chemically alter myself in any way because of that, and several similarly creepy experiences. My "equipment" has to be working properly, or else it could be not a good thing for me. Other drugs have similar effects. Shamans around the world use drugs such as mushrooms, and even alcohol, to make them see spiritual visions. People come to them for help with spiritual problems, so the drugs help the shamans help the people. Years of training and apprenticeship go into that, including mediation practice. They don't do it frivolously, just to "get high," like people in Western culture do.




IV. Claim Your Spiritual Space

The psychic kids show for which I have posted reviews in this forum all detail how frightened the kids are about their ability to sense presences. And in each show, the "teaching psychic" instructs the kids on how to delineate boundaries from the entities. It's a daily thing. You have to tell them where they can and can't be, when they can and can't be there. Like I said, some of them don't even "think." But they can "feel" your intention. They understand, "You can't be here, so leave NOW." They can feel that, and they will leave. Again, they look for a vibrational match, and they feed off lower level emotions like fear, depression, anger. If you're radiating any of those things regularly, it's hard to make them leave. But if you keep the vibration of your residence too high for them, they will find somewhere else to hang out. But they will always be around us, and you'll be able to see them, if in fact you do have the psychic ability to do so, and it's not caused by a physical or mental ailment you're suffering from. So get used to them. But don't be overpowered by them.

The 7-foot dude especially has to go. I don't think he's necessarily malevolent either, but the fact that he's not communicating anything helpful to you, means he's just hanging out because you could see him, and he's enjoying all that fear energy you're actually "feeding" him every day ...running from your bed, crying, and all that. It's like putting a bowl of meat out for a stray dog. You're giving him quite a smorgasbord to feed from, and he's never going to want to leave at this rate. Why should he? It's become a regular way of life for you, and you need to work on changing that.

My advice is do not do any kind of automatic writing, no ouija board or any occult stuff like that, with this thing. If he had a "message" to give you that was of any worth, he would have told it to you telepathically by now. I have a lot of spirit guides, for various purposes, and none of them touch me physically, or otherwise frighten me. Not one. Think about it; what's the purpose of that? Putting his hand on your hip --what is that? Put it this way, would you let an incarnate being just grope you for no reason? Hopefully, you'd slap him if he did. I simply wouldn't allow that kind of nonsense in my presence, and I think a lot of lower-level entities know that about me (incarnate and discarnate, hahaha), so I don't resonate with them. I know exactly why each and every spirit guide is around me, so they don't frighten me. Every spirit guide in my life has a very, very well-defined purpose for being around me, and they let me know what it is from the beginning. When that purpose is completed, they leave without my asking. They don't just hang out; they've got better things to do.

It's the same with incarnate people. Ever notice how people with nothing better to do in their lives tend to try to get in your business, always fishing for drama, but people with a clear sense of purpose don't have time for that? It's the same with spirit beings. The 7-foot guy is just a low-level jerk, a bum that likes scaring people, with nothing better to do.




V. Claim Your Physical Space

Claim your space, Rabbit145. Don't avoid your bedroom; make it your castle instead! Strip everything out of there, burn sage and consecrate it, then put a fresh coat of paint on the walls, a color that is really "you." Pin up images that you think are cool, and that bring your mind peace and empowerment. Wash thoroughly, or altogether replace, all your bedding. I say that because so far you've charged your bedding full of fear energy (that's the nature of the ambient energy with which you've charged your entire bedroom, in fact).

If you're capable of doing that, then you can likewise charge your bedding with peaceful energy and courage. Actually hold your blankets and sheets after you wash or replace them and say, "I imbue these blankets and sheets with peaceful, loving energy. They help me sleep peacefully," and so forth. Write and recite your own "spell" for this, if you want to call it that, and put it into your pillow case, along with a clear quartz crystal to amplify its energy all the more. Stand over your bed and assertively say the same sorts of things while touching its head board, charging its energy too. If you raise ambient energy in your room, the quality of which is empowering to you, people will notice it right when they walk in it ...and so will spirits.




VI. Develop Hygiene Skills

Personally, I think you need help with this, someone you can talk face to face with about it. As Star Witch has pointed out several times on this site, there are many sham psychics out there, so be careful. But my sense is that you need help with learning the skill of setting boundaries with these beings. My sense is that you spend a lot of time alone and you are way too in your head, and not socializing with others enough. So you need a balance between learning to develop helpful skills, and using tools like meditation and automatic writing properly, and getting out and just having fun being a kid. But at least you came to this website, so that's good. At least you're talking to me, and the 4,707 other members of this forum (lol).

But you could learn some helpful skills yourself with practice and determination. Set the intention of what you will and will not allow in your space, your room and home:

* Verbally speak it out loud. This is important. It makes your
intention radiate stronger throughout your physical and spiritual
bodies (we all have both). This is the whole point of witches
reciting their spells out loud, New Age people speaking their
affirmations out loud, shamans singing their "medicine" to
their patients out loud, and so forth. It "raises energy."
As you speak it, so will it be.

* Cleanse your surroundings with symbolic gestures like
burning sage occasionally, charging and placing crystals
in key places like above doors, or wearing them, and
clearing the crystals periodically,

* and using any other techniques you come across that say,
"This is my space. This is how I want it to be." You be the
judge. After a while, you'll start sensing what works for
you personally.

* Learn to "shield" yourself, which you could learn about
if you do a search of posts here. It's basically being aware
of your auric energy, and building a protective shield around
yourself with it. Your aura's always around you per se,
but you could still manipulate it by your will, and shape
it and give it an intentional use.

Again, it would be helpful to learn this stuff with someone in a psychic development environment. If it's OK with your mom, visit your local Spirtualist Church. They could teach you these things, and you could meet other people who experience what you're experiencing so you could compare experiences. But only go there if it's OK with your parents. I don't recommend people doing things behind their parents' backs, as it just causes more confusion and stress for everybody involved. Whatever you do, do your research properly, and practice your excercises regularly. This has to become a way of life for you. Don't just do these things haphazardly. They are "psychic hygiene," as necessary as brushing your teeth and showering.



VII. Work with Your Guides

You do have positive spirit guides, and maybe it's time for you to start invoking them. Do not give the time of day to things that frighten you like the one in your room now. Tell them to leave. But communicate with, say, your guardian angels, and other benevolent beings you start to sense. Tell them you need their protection now, and you would like them to escort away all lower level presences that don't belong in your space. Archangel Michael is a good one to invoke. Many pagans here invoke Goddess, as well, and goddesses like Hecate are powerful yet protective, like a mother would be toward its young. So see what resonates with you. If you think of protection, who or what pops into your mind first? Do your research about that, and learn its properties. In India, they would call that your "chosen ideal," the way you perceive divine spirit, the highest energy. When you meditate, think of this energy/entity, and strengthen your mental and emotional connection with it. Feel yourself empowered and protected as a result.


All in all, just focus on bringing clarity into your life, and peace. Realize that "shadows," do exist and will always be around us, from the little rodents, to the annoying bums with nothing else to do. But you have a right to cleanse and define your space, and determine who you will and will not allow in it. Try to get out and meet other sensitive kids like you, so you guys could enjoy each other's company and have fun. Enjoy your life!

I like the salutation of your last post:

"May stars shine upon your path, may your journeys be unburdened." ...same to you ::coolglasses::

I know you'll be alright.


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I was going to post earlier but didnt. sounds a lot like migraine auras though. A migraine isnt just a head ache, it is a whole set of physical effects, from sickness, imbalance, head aches and also visual hallucinations.

The headache is usually called the migraine, the other stuff is usually called the migraine aura. It isnt magickal or spiritual in any way, it just means it is is the stuff that surrounds the migraine. It is also possible to have a "silent" migraine whereby you feel no pain but get other symptoms like hallucinations etc...

The hallucinations usually take the form of sunspot like things, like when you look at a bright light you get that annoying spot in your eye. But of course it is entirely possible that an individual can get dark hallucinations that can easily be mistaken for shadows, especially since you say they occur in the corner of your eye.

I do feel you are suffering some biological hallucination or imagining it.
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First of all, Kassandra, I want to thank you for all your adivce. :)

I have seen a doctor about my headaches, and I will go back again, because no medication I have taken for pain has worked as well as it should. I even had an MRI, and it came back clean, so we still don't know what's going on. I'll definatly keep the stress-factor in mind. (I have read your post for Finding Balance, so I am going through that checklist as well.) Ah, I guess I fogot to say that I am meditating to try to get to a point where I can contact a spirit guide, or something of the sort, and ask their opinion - I never expected to get a sudden direct diagnosis, lol. If you think I should stop meditating for the time, though, I will.

I didn't know that about cleaning, I will do that as soon as possible. (Our vaccum cleaner has been going though some repairs the last few days...)

I had heard that was true, and that was actually another of my motivations. (Wow, I forgot a lot of things in the first post. I guess I was more tired than I thought, hahaha.) My reasoning was if I was able to see these things more clearly, I could figure out why they were hanging around...perhaps that is backwards logic. ^^; Again, though, if you think the best course of action is to stop for the time being, I will.
That sounds awful. Hitchhikers are new to me as well...I should read more. (I'm shocked that I have not heard of so many of the things you mentioned, because I read more or less constantly.) Hmm. I do not have any prescriptions at the moment, except one to take as-needed for pain, which I do not take very much at all. I do not smoke, drink, etc, so I don't think that's the cause.

I was aware of the possibility that he was feeding on fear, but I never thought of it in terms quite like that. Nor did I think of the random touch as being "groped," though I suppose you are right. (And yes, I definatly would've slapped him if he'd been incarnate, lol.) I've never had any personal experience with telepathy, so that never even crossed my mind. Thanks for pointing that out. :)

Yes, boundries would be good. Unfortunatly, I don't know of anybody I can talk to face-to-face, because I live in the Bible Belt. (By that I mean the part of the South-Eastern United States where 99% of all the people living here are strict Christians.) My friends are all great and super-supportive, (and they know I'm Wiccan, which is a plus,) but when they have potentially supernatural problems, I am the one who does the research to figure out what's going on and what to do about it. I'm normally fairly good at it, but I've just been in a funk lately. The only person I can think of that I know personally who might be able to offer some insight is my boyfriend. Eon (That's his alias, lol.) has helped me with theories before, but I don't think he has done any hands-on banishing before - his area of expertise is more preventing negitive entities from latching onto you in the first place. I have learned to shield myself, but I am terrible at visualization, so I'm still not very good at it. I have found I must already be in a calm, "quiet" state of mind before I can shield.
My mom would definatly be okay with going to a Spiritualist Church, so I might try to find one.

There's so much conflicting (and vague) information on contacting spirit guides, that I'm really not sure how to do so. I suppose I believe in angels, but again, I have no idea how to call on them. I have invoked Goddess a few times before, and that has helped. When I think of protection, the first thing that comes to mind is an elephant. (You know how an enitre matron herd will form a circle around the young to protect them from lions? Like that.) ...how, exactly, does one go about calling on an elephant for protection? Lol.

Again, thank you so much for all your advice, I will definatly put it to use.
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Rabbit145 wrote:I have seen a doctor about my headaches, and I will go back again...I even had an MRI, and it came back clean, so we still don't know what's going on. I'll definatly keep the stress-factor in mind....I do not smoke, drink, etc, so I don't think that's the cause.
Good. It sounds like you're all over it. You'll get to the bottom of it before long.


Rabbit145 wrote:That sounds awful. Hitchhikers are new to me as well...I should read more.
I wouldn't bother if I were you, any more than one would read about all the different bacteria that cling to our hands when we touch door knobs. I mean, it's interesting to look at their nasty pictures, and it's fun to get ourselves all freaked out about them (I remember thinking, "There's no way that is on my hand right now!" the first time I saw what bacteria looks like), but the important thing is just washing our hands so we don't pollute our bodies and food with them.

Same thing with psychic debris. You could look all this stuff up about negative entities, it's certainly interesting, but in the long run it's unnecessary, and in fact will probably just freak you out more when you lay down at night. I certainly don't want to know what's living on my keyboard as I'm typing this right now! So, I think your time would be better spent building up your energy in your residence, and in your mind, and attending to your physical health as much as possible, and then just having fun in life. Just know that psychic "bacteria" is out there in many forms, but don't let it bother you. It's just part of the ecosytem, I guess you could say, just like physical bacteria. Just monitor your spiritual and physical space energetically, practice psychic hygiene, metaphorically "keeping your hands clean," and you'll be fine.


Rabbit145 wrote:Nor did I think of the random touch as being "groped," though I suppose you are right. (And yes, I definatly would've slapped him if he'd been incarnate, lol.)
Good. Keep that mindset. You're going to need it. I treat spirit entities just like I treat humans: the ones that are respectful to me, I address respectfully. The ones that aren't, I do what I can to get out of their faces, or get them out of mine, whichever's safer at the moment. I take everything on a case by case, contextual basis.


Rabbit145 wrote:I have learned to shield myself, but I am terrible at visualization, so I'm still not very good at it.
I know. I'm the same way. I wasn't always so guarded like I am now. I never liked shielding, so it was always a struggle. I like being open to people and the world around me. I developed it over time, out of necessity. It really is a muscle [of perception] that needs to be exercised. But as you exercise it, it will get stronger.


Rabbit145 wrote:My mom would definatly be okay with going to a Spiritualist Church, so I might try to find one.
Very cool. People aren't perfect, so definitely don't expect perfection out of the people you meet there. But at least you could make some friends, have people to vent to, share helpful resources with. I think I would have went crazy were it not for attending a Spiritualist Church at the time I did. At least I had people to talk to, and I learned so much. The fact that you're Wiccan shouldn't be a problem. If it is, they're in the wrong for that. Spiritualism is supposed to be opened to everyone, regardless of their background. There are a few that get full of themselves, but that's in every group, even with some Wiccans, I'm sure. But I'm glad your mom would be open to it. In fact, I get the feeling she might have fun meeting people there, too. Look on the national directory for a church near you: NSAC


Rabbit145 wrote:When I think of protection, the first thing that comes to mind is an elephant. (You know how an enitre matron herd will form a circle around the young to protect them from lions? Like that.) ...how, exactly, does one go about calling on an elephant for protection? Lol.
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Interesting you would ask that
...sounds like Ganesha is your man!

"His image is found throughout India and Nepal. Hindu sects worship him regardless of affiliations. Devotion to Ganesha is widely diffused and extends to Jains, Buddhists, and beyond India."Read more on Wiki

He is a protector, and The Remover of Obstacles that are in your way. I think that's the perfect deity to invoke, considering what you're going through right now. [hahaha, my 13yr old daughter just looked at this and said, "OK Mom, everything about that picture is just wrong, dude."]. OK, OK, so he may be a little freaky-looking to a Westerner. But you gotta figure, if you're in a jungle in Asia, an elephant is indispensable to you. You could clear logs out of the way with him, ride long distances on his back, and everything would be afraid of you because you'd be way up there, looking down on them, riding this powerful tank of an animal. He could trample things. In any event, he is worshiped worldwide, a very popular protector god.

You could wear him as a pendant, put a little statue of him on your desk, hang up a wall hanging of him....

It's the thought that counts, and all you're doing is trying to conjure a sense of protectedness within your being.



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After reading this thread I just had to toss my few cents in.

It shouldn't be assumed that hes a parasite or trying to harm you. Why? If he was a parasite then why did he vanish after you stopped crying? If he was feeding off of you he would have no reason to need to vanish. If you kept him off he could have just continued to watch you from a different part of the room.

Also- most spirits cannot use telepathy. It's not exactly a common trait, usually to be able to do that kind of communication with someone you need to be calm, open, and not afraid of them and trying to commuicate with them. Different spirits like different people are better at some things then others. He might have gotten impatient waiting for you to reach out to him so instead reached out to you in the way he could- touch.

There are many many kinds of things that come in the form or shape of shadows. Some of those like to help people when they feel they need help. Shadow needs light and dark, it can hold knowledge you need as it is not blinded by the darkness or the light. You also don't know if there is something there besides him. The little small shadows you saw before you started seeing him right?

Perhaps he wanted to try to talk to you about those, but you wouldn't know if he even wants to talk to you if you don't try. If you drive him away without trying you wouldn't know if hes trying to help you or if hes a parasite or if hes something that wants to cause harm. Things are never so black and white. Also, why should touching the hip be negative? Why is it assumed as sexual? I touch a persons hip, shoulder, or hands when trying to get their attention. I'm also a person who rarely ever has sex on the mind. A cat can touch your hip, a canine can touch your hip, and he only did this once. For all you know do to not trying to talk to him he may have not known it was a personal area to you. Not every culture in every realm says hips are a no no area to touch.

If he is trying to help you and you make him feel unwelcome enough to have him leave then if there was something important he had to tell you you might end up in a worse situation in the long run. He could very well not be connected to the small shadows at all, in fact I find it doubtful that he is. He was pacing, people usually pace when they are getting impatient- not when they want to scare you or feed off you. I know I pace when I'm ether getting impatient, waiting, or trying to calm down.
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Your Few Cents

That's great, Lost_Demise that you throw your few cents in! :D Throw more than that in, as I encourage differences of opinion in this forum. That's why I posted that announcement for people to "Jump In." In fact, what Rabbit145 is looking for is as many people as possible to discuss this with here, as she stated she only really has one or two people to whom she feels comfortable mentioning any of this. So please, everyone who has comments on this topic, jump in. That way, she could choose from a number of different perspectives, to help her make her way through this issue, and future issues of a supernatural sort. That's what a message board like this is for.


Different Approaches

It's interesting to me because after I made that post, I went out front and raked the lawn. I thought to myself someone is going to voice an opposing view to mine. They're going to think I'm being too hardball. I felt it. My daughter came out and asked if she could help, and I told her thanks, but I was fine working by myself. I was actually lost in thought, and enjoying the coolness of the drizzle of the rain on my face while being lost in thought.

I marveled at how different we all are at times, how culture, circumstances, and experiences shape us. I recalled there was this lady visiting America many years ago, I think she was from the Netherlands or thereabouts, and she left her toddler in a stroller just outside the door of a restaurant, with a glass wall so she could watch the sleeping child, as she ate her meal. Wow, did that cause a maelstrom in America! It made national news headlines. She was railed for being a "bad mother." I felt bad for her. Her thoughts were probably like, "What kind of place is this that people would react like this?" In her country, doing that was a common practice. No one thought anything of it there.

Yet in America, the dark underbelly here is such that if you leave a child unattended like that, there is a strong possibility he or she could be kidnapped. From there, he or she could get sold to an adoption agency, or enslaved into a life of prostitution and child pornography. "White slavery," as they call it, is alive and thriving in America ('cause it makes a lot of money), a sad case in point I recently ran across: Johhnny Gosch. So Americans, knowing all this, were simply aghast at the mother's act. Their thoughts were probably like, "What kind of mother is she that she would do something like this?" And so the culture shock ensued, both ways. It was startling to me. There are so many examples like this I could think of.

I also thought about (yes, it was an interesting leaf-raking session, indeed, lol) how that many years ago I had read that per capita gun ownership was astronomically higher in America, most notably compared to Japan and England. I thought to myself, what in this culture causes us to feel such fear, to feel we need to buy so many guns. And I wondered what it must be like to live in a country like Japan or England, where the majority of people don't feel they need to buy so many guns. What's that feel like, that sense of safety and security? I wouldn't know. It's the "Wild,Wild West" here, literally for me as I live in California, and that was at one time the nickname of this region of the country. Perhaps gun ownership in Japan and England has risen sharply since the time of the report I read, and it's all leveled off. But I never forgot about that report.


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How different the cultures we live in can be, at times. Even within the same country there are subcultures, so different in opinion and perspective one from the other. Our experiences shape and mold us, according to how we have interpreted the experiences. Due to my experiences, inclinations, and training, I'm inclined to clarify space under no uncertain terms. But what are your thoughts on this? A diversity of thought is always enlightening and interesting.

So everyone, jump in with your cents about this, as Lost_Demise has...

-Have you similarly experienced shadow people encounters like this at night?
-How did you handle it?
-What's your take on what Rabbit145 is going through? How would you handle the situation?
-Would you try to communicate with these spirits, or send them on their way?
-How have your experiences shaped your thoughts and actions in regard to this, or similar situations?

[Note: I am leaving for out of town today, and will be returning in three days. I will probably not be able to get on the message board during that time until I return, so I will respond to your comments or questions then. Thanks]


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Lost_Demise
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Re: What are these shadows?

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XD Dang at first I didn't know what to think of you because I didn't know you but now I just think you're awesome! Though I shouldn't jump Because I still don't know you~ Yes, yes, culture makes large differences.


Have I encountered? No, but I've had many lifetimes and live in the spirit realm. I've seen many sorts of things in the spirit realm and yet through my many years still often run in to surprises. I'm also a spirit doctor, that though most spirit health issues are self caused if I don't try to learn the non self caused issues and how to deal with them I wouldn't be a good spirit doctor if one of them arises and I had no idea how to handle it! If only more people knew that one of the best ways to stay in good spiritual health is to love and accept yourself and try to do things that make your life happy in some way or another every so often and give yourself space sometimes- and no matter how tempting it is to linger around the spirits too long that they should live in the physical and only visit the spiritual. Balance is the key to good health!

Well now I'm getting off topic so I will steal back on to it. I've seen many kinds of spirits, and many kinds of shadows. Because they are hard to tell apart from appearance due to shadows being- well shadows to me what makes it much easier how to tell them apart is how they act. It still leaves a lot of vagueness to it, and honestly communication to those of the flesh is difficult for a spirit. In the end the only real way to be sure is to talk to them. Though I suppose the main reason I think he's trying to help her is because he is warm- not very many shadow people I've run in to where warm unless they where helpful or violent. If he was violent he would have already hurt her. If they can touch her like that and have her feel his body heat it tells me that his talent is probably in touch.

Something many more positive spirits avoid a lot of times if they look frightening to the majority of humans. Most humans these days do assume shadow or darkness or black means evil. Even if it doesn't, it's still a wide assumption. It can mean a lot of things, but not evil. Also, shadow is a mix of dark and light, it needs both to be a shadow and exist even if it may appear as pure black. A shadow shouldn't be called darkness, but rather called it's rightful title as something that needs both. Also, how he was acting reminds me a lot of how I would if I was scared that someone important to me might get hurt. I could easily see myself go to touch them if their eyes hit me, hoping badly that maybe if I did I could get my words or message across better. Though of course she said he left when she started crying and praying for protection he vanished. I know I would leave that person alone and feel hurt and depressed if instead of getting what I was trying to say that I instead upset them and made them feel scared.

I wonder if that all means I did encounter, just not in the same way as Rabbit145...

How I would handle the situation is the first reach out to try to communicate with them. There are many different kinds of ways to reach out to a spirit, if they are not one that means harm purifying your room could help because it would help clear all the things that could be getting in the way and cleansing can help calm a person. Another way one could try is just to try to close your eyes, calm down, try to relax and ask them to come to you and make your mind open to them. If you aren't scared and your calm its easier to hear people- be it a physical person or a spirit. Another way you can try is to light a white candle and pray for the strength of mind to speak to him. If you put enough energy in the prayer it would work pretty well, though different things work for different people. One thing I ALWAYS try to avoid is to make an assumption. Assumptions are the quickest way to making a mistake. I'm not suggesting one should assume he means well, just to try not to assume anything be it bad or good until you hear him talk. I would suggest against doing anything that would create gates though, as gates are things that usually bring in more then you bargained for.

It's safe to say I would try to communicate with it, but whatever action that is taken next would depend on what it says. If it proves through its words that it's bad then I would ether send it packing in one way or another, or eat it but I'm pretty sure she can't do that. Ifs something good though then I would try to learn what I can from it and try to be friendly with it and to create a bond of sorts. It's always useful to have people around that want to help you out, well usually anyway.

You are right, diversity is always interesting. I suppose before I had been worried I might offend someone^^; I'm bad with English and can easily be misunderstood..
Rabbit145

Re: What are these shadows?

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Lost_Desmise, thank you so much for your input. That is definately an angle I would not have otherwise seen as easily, and I will always appreaciate new perspectives. You don't have to worry about offending me. :D I won't do anything to directly banish him, but I will do an overall cleanse of the room - holy water, burning sage, lighting candles, saying prayers, singing songs, something along those lines - to remove negitivity and invite joy in. I will be quite careful to word it properly so that it's not an outright banishing, more of a...Spring Clean, only in Winter, hahaha. I might even invite some friends over to celebrate. We could hold a feast or something. To Shadowx, I have kept in mind, and will continue to keep in mind, the possiblility of this being merely a side-effect, though, I have tried medications formulated specifically for migraines, and they did nothing to help, so I am doubtful that migraines specifically are the problem. Kassandra is right, the more perspectives I am shown, the more opportunity I have to educate myself before I make a decision. Thank you all again, guys. I'm already thinking more and thinking positivly.
Lost_Demise
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Re: What are these shadows?

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If you cleanse the room make sure it knows first- if it knows what you are doing then if it's bad it'll likely still be gone but if it's good it'll be likely to hang around. It sounds like all and all you've figured out what to do though, so I wish you luck! Yes, positive thinking is good~!
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