Who doesnt believe in Threefold?

Post by **[moondance]** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:01 am

Heya am just curious for those that dont believe in the threefold and what do you classify yourself as (IF you even classify yourself as anything (ya I know - classification isnt a good word - I hate labels too) but I have been saying to ppl that I am into wicca - but I realise that I cant be a wiccan as I do not really believe in the threefold law ... but saying that I do always say with Harm to None ... I guess I do nto believe in the 3 fold but at the same time I dont wnat to do spells that will cause harm to myself or anyone else ... I am just tyring to learn bout different kinda of pagans and beliefs etc ... plus I cant keep on saying I am wiccan when I guess I am obviously not if I dont follow one fo the first laws - anyway just curious if anyone else out there like me and what do you consider yourself to be ... whether its pagan, Heathenry, solitary, wiccan,chaos ... wahtever ... thnx [/b]

Post by **GenevieveDawn** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:56 pm

I'll be the first one to respond. I don't really think if you do a spell then things can come back on you 3 fold. I think at times you have no way to predict how your spell will manifest and all kinds of hell can break loose. Is this the same? In my opinion, not really.

To me the 3 fold law is the same as saying "what goes around comes around" or the Golden Rule " Do unto others, etc. etc." , I think maybe it was exaggerated a little bit to make people who shouldn't be doing spells in the first place, think twice. It seems to help for the most part.

My opinion anyway...

Post by **LaFiamma** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:42 pm

Don't believe in it.

"What goes around comes around" makes sense to me. What goes around comes around and around and around? Not so much. Why? How does it get magnified? Why should it get magnified?

Tinu · Post by **Tinu** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:49 am

In the tradition I follow, the Rule of Three doesn't pertain to just spells, but to all energy you send out, and it doesn't mean that it will come back to you just threefold, but however you need it to come across to you till you learn the required lesson.

Post by **LaFiamma** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:03 pm

There's also the idea that whatever you do affects you on three levels- spiritual, physical, emotional...and as I understand, this is what the threefold law really is, not that what you put out comes back three times.

this idea makes a LOT more sense

Post by **[moondance]** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:50 am

hey thanks for your replies girls n guys ... i guess my question is more so if you dont believe in the threefold ... then do you still call yourself a wiccan ... ? I do not really feel I believe in the threefold ... yet when ppl are asking me about my religions / beliefs etc ... i used to say wiccan but realised I am not sure i can use this term since I dont really believe in one of the fundamental rules of wicca... its kinda like saying I am irish when I am english ... in the sense both are under the heading of "british" but two completely different things ... i dont like labels ... but when I am explaining to ppl or trying to educate them on my doctrine ... well i am already misinforming them by saying I am wiccan when I clearly am not ... ? ... so just curious what you all consider yourself to be or classify yourself as .... ? ... or do you still classify yourself as wiccans .. ?

Estelle · Post by **Estelle** » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:17 pm

I don't believe in the threefold law or karma, as I have seen evidence of neither. I'm also not Wiccan, by any stretch.

Raine · Post by **Raine** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:00 pm

Personally, I do believe in Karma and Three Fold.

Why? ~ Because I believe the energy that you send out to the universe in whatever you may be performing at the time, will come back stronger than it was sent out.

This is my personal belief though, everyone is different so the next person might believe something different, but no two people are the same.

Blessed Be.

Post by **Sobek** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:32 am

i dont believe in the three fold law. but i dont exactly call myself wiccan either. to me i am something totally my own. though by some i could be identified as wiccan. though i dont believe in the three fold law as such i do believe in the karam effect to a proportion. i believe everything we do comes from somewhere and in this context its very true. like for a very basic example your best friend is so so depressed, and you do a casting to help life thier spirits. i believe this state of content has too come from somwhere and as far as consequences go you may be trading your happiness for someone elses.

hope i made sense

-Sobek

Post by **[ravenwing]** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:15 pm

Personally I dont believe in the Threefold Law, nor the Wiccan Rede. These are principles of the Wiccan religion, which I am not a member of.

To me its no different than not believing in the Holy Trinity, as I am not a Christian either.

For those that DO believe in these things, I have the utmost respect for you -- everyone SHOULD have a belief system they have Faith in. I just see things a bit differently than most -- the idea of "equal and opposite reaction" is what I work with. Sort of like a "what goes around comes around" kind of thing. The universe must after all remain in balance - there must be a negative for every positive and vice versa, not a 3 for 1 trade. Otherwise the energy would eventually HAVE to run out.

Post by **LaFiamma** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:04 pm

Raine wrote:Personally, I do believe in Karma and Three Fold.

Why? ~ Because I believe the energy that you send out to the universe in whatever you may be performing at the time, will come back stronger than it was sent out.

This is my personal belief though, everyone is different so the next person might believe something different, but no two people are the same.

Blessed Be.

Not sure how much you might have thought about this but what you're thinking of might be contrqadictory.

If you're thinking of the idea that everyhting you do affects you on three different levels, then they jive, but if you're thinking that everyhting you do comes back to you three times, that conflicts with the idea that whatever you do, good or bad, gets balanced out.

Bartholomew · Post by **Bartholomew** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:08 am

I mentioned this another thread. I have no idea what to believe at this point in my life.

Post by **Sobek** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:06 am

in time you will know. dont be in a rush to find everything out. there is plenty of time. especially if you believe in re-incarnation, plenty of time then lol

-Sobek

emberbella · Post by **emberbella** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:40 pm

When I first started practicing, I identified myself as Wiccan. As I've developed my practice and my beliefs, I've started referring to myself as pagan. Its a rather general term, and not very descriptive...but it helps me when I'm trying to explain my religion to someone. I normally don't refer to myself as a witch when talking to people about my religion for the first time, because its led to me having to deal with people accusing me of worshiping satan.

I do believe in the threefold in that a spell or energy will effect mind, body, spirit.

Enki · Post by **Enki** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:37 pm

I regard myself as a practical magician. I think the threefold rule is a fairly good rule of thumb when it comes to determining the effect of a act of Will, but the true force that is created depends on differing factors and can be lessened or increased depending on the circumstances.

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