I don't know where else to put this...
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:05 pm
I'm crying so hard I can't breath and it's difficult to see anything through all the tears. I am still debating whether if this part of the message will be kept in it. So you might not read this part, and therefore it doesn't matter.
I tried to tell myself I was over things because, but these people just like to keep negativity alive.
I should probably explain everything before I go even further...
My fiance and I were like the average couple were we had our seperate friends, which we would try to get our significant other friends with while we had mutual friends.
After much negativity and confusion that happened between my friends and I, I got a bit estranged with some of my friends.
I grew really close to one of my fiance and mine mutual friends...let's call him Joe. Well, Joe and I became best friends, and talked about many things together. My fiance remained best friends with his very good friend Ralph.
Joe and I became so close that my non-physical friend decided to make himself known to Joe, which Joe really doesn't know much of magick. So he was a bit skeptical, but existence of my non-phsyical friend was too much to ignore. So Joe became with my non-physical friend as well.
Ralph learns a little bit about magick after dating a girl, who unfortunately liked to manipulate him with energy. However, my non-phsyical friend never like Ralph so he didn't bother with him.
Ralph and Joe would always talk about my friend, which with the negative things happened with, in front of my fiance and me even though we much rather have kept it as a private matter (meaning only talking to those it concerned with [my fiance, my friend, my non-physical friend, and myself]).
However, since Joe and Ralph did not know the full story that happened they would always insult my estranged friend, which angered/upset me and my fiance. Until Joe and Ralph would "remind" my fiance on why he should hate my friend. My fiance has a short temper and would get mad over the events that happened between my friend and me, and say things out of anger, but then would try to change the subject. Sometimes he was able to sometimes Ralph and Joe wouldn't drop it.
Ralph always asked for my fiance and mine's advice on dating or girls in general. The best advice we could give him was not to worry about finding "the one" because you will find her when you're not looking. He didn't listen.
So we gave him advice on other girls that he liked, and he would do the extreme opposite of our advice. Then he would get furious with my fiance and me when things went foul. He held us responsible for things we advised him against doing.
He later on said that we were to critical (mind you we only gave advice when he asked), and he didn't like hanging out with us because we were always happy. Lovely friend huh?
Meanwhile Joe is starting to spread lies about my fiance and me to my estranged friend. And starts telling my estrange friend that our (hers, mine, my fiance's, and at the time Joe's) non-physical friend isn't real, and I just have issues.
She starts to believe Joe, which hurts my non-phsyical friend greatly even though he tried not letting it show because he's "above such a low thing such as sadness"
My fiance and I realize that our friendship with Joe and Ralph is fading fast so we try to talk things out with them one at a time to save the relationship. They both tell us all is well, but then go around telling everyone what an asshole my fiance is and what a psychotic bitch I am.
After trying and trying and being told that "We should move on with our lives that people change and grow up," we decided to cut ties with Joe and Ralph. Both my fiance and I wish them the most happiness in life because we recognize everyone is entitled to such.
It's been about a year since we broken off ties. Since then...
Ralph threatened to beat me and my fiance up one day because we talked to one of our mutual friends "Allan". He told us to stay away from "his friends" or he'll "make us pay."
My friend and I are no longer estranged, however Joe and Ralph continue to tell my friends untrue things about my fiance and me. They use words and insults they said and put them in my fiance's mouth. They constantly talk about how I have issues to have a non-physical friend.
My fiance doesn't know how to talk to new people. Especially my friends after all that happened. So he just doesn't talk at all, which isn't really a good thing. So that gives Joe and Ralph much lead way to convince my friends that my fiance is a horrid person.
If my fiance was really so terrible, I wouldn't date someone with that or being engaged!
I know this isn't kind of vague because I left out the detail on my my friend and I became estranged, but that part is over.
I just wish that Ralph and Joe would leave my fiance and me alone. My fiance doesn't want me to say anything because Joe and Ralph will only turn it around and say we're attacking them. I don't want to either because I know that's the case. But I hate just sitting idly by while my former friends spread lies and turn my friends against me/fiance.
Joe and Ralph also made a club this past summer entitled "The Anti-Rob" (my fiance's name is Rob). We haven't spoken to them in a year so what the hell?
Is there any advice anyone to give where I can get Joe and Ralph to just leave me and my fiance alone. I don't care if my friends are friends with them. My friends can be friends with whom ever they please. I just don't want Ralph and Joe being such jerks.
*sigh*
I tried to tell myself I was over things because, but these people just like to keep negativity alive.
I should probably explain everything before I go even further...
My fiance and I were like the average couple were we had our seperate friends, which we would try to get our significant other friends with while we had mutual friends.
After much negativity and confusion that happened between my friends and I, I got a bit estranged with some of my friends.
I grew really close to one of my fiance and mine mutual friends...let's call him Joe. Well, Joe and I became best friends, and talked about many things together. My fiance remained best friends with his very good friend Ralph.
Joe and I became so close that my non-physical friend decided to make himself known to Joe, which Joe really doesn't know much of magick. So he was a bit skeptical, but existence of my non-phsyical friend was too much to ignore. So Joe became with my non-physical friend as well.
Ralph learns a little bit about magick after dating a girl, who unfortunately liked to manipulate him with energy. However, my non-phsyical friend never like Ralph so he didn't bother with him.
Ralph and Joe would always talk about my friend, which with the negative things happened with, in front of my fiance and me even though we much rather have kept it as a private matter (meaning only talking to those it concerned with [my fiance, my friend, my non-physical friend, and myself]).
However, since Joe and Ralph did not know the full story that happened they would always insult my estranged friend, which angered/upset me and my fiance. Until Joe and Ralph would "remind" my fiance on why he should hate my friend. My fiance has a short temper and would get mad over the events that happened between my friend and me, and say things out of anger, but then would try to change the subject. Sometimes he was able to sometimes Ralph and Joe wouldn't drop it.
Ralph always asked for my fiance and mine's advice on dating or girls in general. The best advice we could give him was not to worry about finding "the one" because you will find her when you're not looking. He didn't listen.
So we gave him advice on other girls that he liked, and he would do the extreme opposite of our advice. Then he would get furious with my fiance and me when things went foul. He held us responsible for things we advised him against doing.
He later on said that we were to critical (mind you we only gave advice when he asked), and he didn't like hanging out with us because we were always happy. Lovely friend huh?
Meanwhile Joe is starting to spread lies about my fiance and me to my estranged friend. And starts telling my estrange friend that our (hers, mine, my fiance's, and at the time Joe's) non-physical friend isn't real, and I just have issues.
She starts to believe Joe, which hurts my non-phsyical friend greatly even though he tried not letting it show because he's "above such a low thing such as sadness"
My fiance and I realize that our friendship with Joe and Ralph is fading fast so we try to talk things out with them one at a time to save the relationship. They both tell us all is well, but then go around telling everyone what an asshole my fiance is and what a psychotic bitch I am.
After trying and trying and being told that "We should move on with our lives that people change and grow up," we decided to cut ties with Joe and Ralph. Both my fiance and I wish them the most happiness in life because we recognize everyone is entitled to such.
It's been about a year since we broken off ties. Since then...
Ralph threatened to beat me and my fiance up one day because we talked to one of our mutual friends "Allan". He told us to stay away from "his friends" or he'll "make us pay."
My friend and I are no longer estranged, however Joe and Ralph continue to tell my friends untrue things about my fiance and me. They use words and insults they said and put them in my fiance's mouth. They constantly talk about how I have issues to have a non-physical friend.
My fiance doesn't know how to talk to new people. Especially my friends after all that happened. So he just doesn't talk at all, which isn't really a good thing. So that gives Joe and Ralph much lead way to convince my friends that my fiance is a horrid person.
If my fiance was really so terrible, I wouldn't date someone with that or being engaged!
I know this isn't kind of vague because I left out the detail on my my friend and I became estranged, but that part is over.
I just wish that Ralph and Joe would leave my fiance and me alone. My fiance doesn't want me to say anything because Joe and Ralph will only turn it around and say we're attacking them. I don't want to either because I know that's the case. But I hate just sitting idly by while my former friends spread lies and turn my friends against me/fiance.
Joe and Ralph also made a club this past summer entitled "The Anti-Rob" (my fiance's name is Rob). We haven't spoken to them in a year so what the hell?
Is there any advice anyone to give where I can get Joe and Ralph to just leave me and my fiance alone. I don't care if my friends are friends with them. My friends can be friends with whom ever they please. I just don't want Ralph and Joe being such jerks.
*sigh*