Satara wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:28 am
But couldn't one say that every religion has its craft? There are almost always rituals and practices that are linked heavily to a religion. A Buddhist will most likely also have a meditation habit, a Christian often goes to church on Sundays or at holidays. I think at it's core, almost every religion is a craft.
Then the term 'wiccan' kinda fell out of fashion, with people busily promoting the own brands of 'definitely not wicca' and 'I can't believe it's not wicca' - Pop culture had caught up with us.
People remain people.
That's something I'll never quite understand. Yes, people are people, but we seriously don't learn a thing. I don't consider myself Wiccan, but I won't go around telling every Wicca I find that I'm "definitely not like you". Respecting each other is still a thing, and in most modern countries, we have freedom of religion and belief, so this bickering is even highly pointless.
Personal opinions only.
Yes every religion has its rituals and symbolism.. but also has its esoteric core or mysticism. Religions are founded by mystics but developed by (at best) the faithful, then the blind unthinking learned-believers and then (at worst) those abusing it for temporal worldly power.
Faith is not belief, it transcends it. It is within Spirituality and It is a gift. The mystics oracle.
Christianity has gnosticism, judaism has the kaballah. They are part of a faith but often at odds with the mainstream dogma of religion.
Mysticism has no denomination and considers the dogma as guidelines for the masses and symbolism as guideposts for the faithful and inquisitive.
Now if we consider wicca simply as Gardners practice it was a craft-religion. While witchcraft is a part of that wicca, wicca doesn't have to be a part of witchcraft in the same way as you don't have to be Buddhist to meditate. Like mysticism, meditation has no denomination.
Interestingly in Eastern practices the word 'religion' and 'spirituality' mean practically the same thing. The labels are things people get all hung up on though.
I call it 'window dressing'.
Witchcraft doesn't need to have religion or moral bounderies to work at all
- chaos magic works (because belief is not faith) - but people benefit from a broader awareness of cause and effect - reaping what you sew.
Hell, people work magic all the time without even realising it.
I was trying to clear up why Wicca is often equated with witchcraft entire - at some point in history the terms became vague, mostly due to authors truth be told. Now it seems egos have entered the equation.
Pete Jennings, ex-head of the pagan federation called (paraphrased) organising or getting pagans to agree on something like herding cats.
We have been bickering and posturing as a species and then society since we came into being - why do we think that is even going to change? The wise try to be kind to each other or at least keep the disagreements playful and good natured. Having seen the 'witchwars' and pissing contests aplenty - despite our best intentions, witches are people too. Fallibility is what we all have in common.
I try to give people a free pass these days, I believe they call it mellowing with age