Shadow Work

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Re: Shadow Work

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Humanity was never monogamous, but the've almost always pretended, cause otherwise the society would break down. This has always been troublesome for the individuum, but strengthened the society in general.
I have been thinking about this. I looked up Social Manogamy, and wondered "why would people feel naturally inclined to do what goes against many of their own ethics?"
But then I realized that we also go against consensual ethics in other areas, such as murder and abuse. Large societies have always had murders and probably even smaller societies had situations of abuse that were contrary to the ethics of that society.

So then I began thinking that anger is to murder as lust is to adultery.

Murder and abuse, unless for strategic purposes, is almost always fueled by anger--but would it be fair to equate anger to abuse? It would be illogical to say that every time anyone, including ones self, felt angry--it was the same as if they were killing or abusing someone-- yet I have been blindly equating extra-marital desire to adultery.

Anger is actually very helpful when it is worked through. Irrational anger can help you figure out if you are repressing things that need not be repressed (as stated in the description of Shadow Work that began the thread.) Anger can also show a person how they do not want to act or how we need to make changes in our lives or routines. And being angry definitely doesn't make you abusive or a killer.

Like anger, sexual desire is often directed at another person. But when you examine both anger and desire--they are not caused by external sources, but maybe are responses to the individual's observation of certain concepts. Like, when a man is attracted to a manikin, it is not the manikin who is doing it, but it is him that is associating the manikin with a concept that he desires or enjoys. Often times we think it is the object that is causing the anger or lust--but it originates within us.

I would guess that the people who are most likely to be abusive or murder someone when angry--are those people who have trouble recognizing that anger is caused from within them, rather than the object they think is angering them. If they took responsibility for their anger, and worked through it, then they might not end up harming others as much.

Likewise, maybe people are less likely to commit sexual acts against their own ethics, if they understand that their desire says more about themselves than the object they are directing it at. Maybe by listening to their desire, they can choose to make other lifestyle changes that will achieve the desired results, without having to act out sexual scenario that is contrary to their ethics, or harmful to their valuable relationships.

I think it will help me to think of sexual desire like I think of anger.
Well, I could tell you it's perfectly healthy to have fun with your sexuality. That women who act with fun on their sexual feelings are indeed good and healthy and content women. But this won't help you, would it? ;) Maybe it would help you to look out for female friends who enjoy their sexuality? If you don't have real life friends, you could join an online community.
It actually does help a little to hear that Traum! I think repetition is powerful and I have heard the contrary too many times, both in stories and in other interactions. Sometimes it helps just to say things--until I start to believe them! Nice wording too--fun, good, healthy, content.

I have one good friend who enjoys her sexuality--but not in a way that I believe in. She said to me once while we were at a party, "Don't you like the feeling of power... that any of the guys at this party would sleep with you if you wanted?" This bothered me because some of the men at the party had monogamous partners--and I don't think men are like that--she acted like all men are just drooling dogs who will chase any stick that a beautiful woman throws. Plus--this friend was the kind of friend who, in high school, would purposely go after the guy I had a crush on. And she was so comfortable with her body that once she slowly undressed in front of my boyfriend! Of course she is different now--but I still won't invite her over for dinner with my husband! :)

Thanks for all the good suggestions on the thread. I know it is a shadow work thread, not a "repressed sexuality" thread, so I am sorry to have written so much. But you are right--often times it is difficult to discuss sexuality with acquaintances or friends. So online is a good resource. Hopefully others will be able to benefit from our conversation--I am sure their are plenty of women who have confusions about the issues between sex and purity.
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Every example helps people understand what Shadow Work is about and repressed sexuality is a Shadow of most people, even of men. Cause they probably repress their soft side ;)

It helped me to talk and socialise with people who who are open in their sexuality, who are happy and who lives perfect good lives ;) Having fun strangely didn't lead them to be outcast, losing their job, family or home ;) I started hang with them out even more than I hang ot with all those repressd friends. After a while I started to feel, if it's ok for them and they accept me, I can accept myself, too :)
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I've made an attempt at "shadow work" without really being aware of what I was doing.

I know that I have suppressed many things throughout my life (from childhood abuse to always being afraid of losing friends)
and I can Clearly see the way my Shadow affects my life.

So many times I do the Opposite of what I think in my head, out of fear of rejection.....

The only thing is, Now I am unaware of HOW to confront my shadow. I read the original post where you describe a spirit guide or safe place, but these things are not familiar to me.

Can anyone give me any suggestions as what to do now, or how to transform these shadows so I can be the amazing person I know that I am?
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I PMed you back, but I guess you are not the only one with problems like this, so I copy my answer here, too. Just PM me again, if me answering here ist to private.


Dealing with the Shadow is never easy, even though with more experience, you will know more technics to deal with and you will become more confident about your abilities

You seem to have a lot baggage with you (me too). That's nether bad nor good, but this way, you already know part of your Shadow, which can give you a start.

I was talking about a Spirit guide or a safe place. It's important when confronting a Shadow to feel comfortable, safe and confident. You can reach this with many methods, mine were guides and places, but for you it can be anything you like. A special stone, a poem, just something you trust completely and know for sure you are safe. For some people (especially with traumatic background) it's difficult to build up a secure feeling like this. So this ist always the first part of Shadow Work. This can take a few minutes or a few months, depending on yourself and the nature of your Shadow.

If you have no clue how to reach this secure state, just start with a little daydreaming. Remember nice moments and places in your life, when you felt good. Like this one time, when you were sitting beneath a tree and the sun was shining, or standing in front of the sea or lying in the arm of someone you love. Just gather all these experiences. If you like stones, you can fill these secure feelings in a stone, than this will become your safestone. Just imagine how all these good feeling go into the stone, like daydreaming. Or if you like to work with Gods/Godesses, just imagine how it would be to be reallys cared for by this God(ess).

Good luck
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Traumwandlerin wrote:So, this is the first version of how to do Shadow Work. You can point out flaws, mistakes, things you want to know, things that should be changed. After that I'll post a new version. So discussing the topic is probably sensable in this thread. I'm gonna change the layout (I know, it sucks). Please be sensible with my language abilities, but also make sure to point out the mistakes. I'm not a native speaker, so there are surely many mistakes in it.
This is very interesting, I was acually thinking of starting a thread about shadow work. But I see them and use them in a completely different way than as theyre described in the posts. I can understand how the term shadow work can be applied to a person in the process of transforming.But the shadow work I do is based on an acual shadows casted when a point of light hits an object. So I woulndt regard anything youve stated as flawed or neveccesary to be changed. but if you also work with shadows created by the intercepting of light on a person or object, i would love to hear about that as well. If this is not the place then i will start a thread discussing that type of shadow work.
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This thread is about Shadow Work as the spiritual version of Shadow Work by the psychotherapist Jung, who invented the term "Schattenarbeit" (Shadow Work). Since Jung and me are both German, maybe I just translated the term wrong and this form of therapy has a different name in the US.

I would be glad, if you start a new thread and make clear in the title, that is has nothing to do with this thread. So it won't be confused, since I refer a lot to this thread ^^ Maybe "Shadow Casting" would be ok? And I can have a look, if I can make an addition to the title, like "Shadow Work: How to transform your Shadow".
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Traumwandlerin wrote:This thread is about Shadow Work as the spiritual version of Shadow Work by the psychotherapist Jung, who invented the term "Schattenarbeit" (Shadow Work). Since Jung and me are both German, maybe I just translated the term wrong and this form of therapy has a different name in the US.

I would be glad, if you start a new thread and make clear in the title, that is has nothing to do with this thread. So it won't be confused, since I refer a lot to this thread ^^ Maybe "Shadow Casting" would be ok? And I can have a look, if I can make an addition to the title, like "Shadow Work: How to transform your Shadow".
No not translated wrong, there are many names for this type of thing that accumulates in people over the years.
but thanks for learing that up. Its a type of magic so I will title it along the lines of shadow magic or shadow manipulation. :type:
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Traumwandlerin wrote: Remember nice moments and places in your life, when you felt good. Like this one time, when you were sitting beneath a tree and the sun was shining, or standing in front of the sea or lying in the arm of someone you love. Just gather all these experiences. If you like stones, you can fill these secure feelings in a stone, than this will become your safestone. Just imagine how all these good feeling go into the stone, like daydreaming. Or if you like to work with Gods/Godesses, just imagine how it would be to be reallys cared for by this God(ess).

Good luck
Thanks for these suggestions. I have a very hard time finding a safe space. I knew of the technique to think of the good feelings that I have experienced, but even though I work with stones, I never thought to fill the stones with these feelings. That is a super idea, and I look forward to trying it out. I have also used the image of being safe in the heart of the Buddha, or the pearl visualization by Starhawk, where you imagine yourself in a giant pearl.
But visualizations take energy, and they don't last for me. So a stone seems like a really good way. I have never used a pentagram, but have been thinking of finding (or making) a pendant, and I wonder if I can use that as a symbol of security or protection to feel safe--because I tend to be a very anxious person in my daily life.
I wonder what stone to use. I imagine Moonstone maybe, because that tends to make me feel as if the world is a delightful place. Or Celestite, which makes me want to fall asleep--although I am not sure how good that is for visualization. I also have a large chunk of Labadorite, which is one of my favorite stones, but I am not using it for anything but decoration, yet. My intuition is already telling me "Celestite."
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I'm happy you like the idea of the stones :)

If you don't feel at ease with visualisation, try imagine instead. That's not the same, visualisation takes energy, imagination not. Imagination is more like daydreaming, just thinking baout things, not try to create them. Everyone can do this in the first try, some people may not realze it, because they think it should be something special. But really, you don't need anything special :)
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I thought I'd add an excerpt from my BOS on this topic as a contribution, if you don't mind.

"To begin shadow work, first chose only one of the objects within your shadow to work with at a time. Make the time for this work on the last night of the waning moon. Go into a meditative state in a quiet, relaxing area. Focus on the object within your shadow you are going to be working with... Confront that object. Tell it that you are thankful for the qualities it holds that has helped you, but that its darker side is your past and needs to go. List a negative about it and cast that negative aside to be dealt with later. Then, list a positive about it and drawl that part into you, so that it may remain. Continue this, back and forth, until you feel you have ran out of positives. Then, take all of the amassed negatives together and tell them they are no longer welcome. Visualize a ball of white light surrounding it, destroying the negatives.

On the night of the dark moon, light a candle to represent the new 'light' in your darkness. Then, for the phases of the waxing moon, leading up to the full moon, concentrate on working on, and with, those positive traits, building them up into a new you."
The Goddess is like the moon itself, guiding us in our darkest moments.
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I like it. I hope this will ehlp others, too :)
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Thank you. That's what I was thought, too. A different view on it for the people who don't have a spiritual guide. That leans towards the Shamanic path.
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Thanks Roseonfire,
I usually work with the lunar phases so this method seems comfortable to me. I'm also glad you added it to the thread, as we all work differently.

Traum, I can actually do visualizations pretty well, but I am anxious for lasting periods, and so I can't keep the vision up all day, but I could carry a rock around, or wear a specific type of jewelry.
I will try to understand the differences between imaginings and visualizations--perhaps visualizations entail the work of control, whereas imaginings control themselves better, so take less energy?
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Visualisation includes the sense of vision. It's hard to keep a specific picture up. It's always a bit changing or blurry in the edges. Some people think they need to do a perfect picture in their mind before they can do magic. That's not true. Imagination can include anything: vision, sounds, feelings, believes, emotions, stories, it's more like daydreaming or playing like a child. It comes more natural to most and since you don't expect specific pictures, you are able to believe in your own abilities. Stories and games also can be kept up for days, always keeping a specific picture in the head gets boring for the brain.
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Welcome, WhiteOne. My purpose here is to contribute to the community so I'm glad I was able to help. Blessed Be!
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