Ok, I don't want to start an argument, but I don't quite understand. How can you practice witchcraft and be atheist? Most of the magic is about belief and energy. And, correct me if i'm wrong, being an atheist means you believe in science not magic. I am not trying to make you angry or make fun of you and I could be wrong. I just want to try to understand this.sanoyikamama wrote:I'm non wiccan, atheist and practice witchcraft more along traditional lines, and have also had some very negative experiences with wiccans and those who claim they aren't wiccan but don't know witchcraft outside of it. I especially have had problems with wiccan elders and their high priests/priestesses. They don't seem to understand that I get that they've been practicing for 20 years, but so have I even though I may be half their age and that I do things in ways that have been passed down for generations, some hundreds of years and that there is no "right" way for doing things. Many wiccans need to learn that they are part of a religion that is less than a hundred years old and that involves witchcraft, it's NOT the soul definition of it.
sanoyikamama wrote:Many wiccans need to learn that they are part of a religion that is less than a hundred years old
I didn't see this one when I replied to the other one, but I agree with MoonlitOrchid that, unfortunately, you will find that in all religions. I apologize for their rudeness and hostility. Believe me- NOT all Wiccans are like that. I have also met a few of these "lovely" people. I couldn't believe someone who claimed to have the same beliefs as me could be so horrid. Wicca is such a beautiful religion to me. It's about nature and your ancestors and balancing out your life. I'm not saying it is for everyone, and I am totally okay with someone not wanting to become Wiccan. I've been practicing it for 7 years now and it brings me peace in this chaotic world. I don't believe in forcing my beliefs on ANYONE, but I don't like it when people bash my beliefs when they have no reason to or don't know what they're talking about. (Please don't think I am saying YOU are doing this- I'm kinda ranting at this point :p)Peregrine1013 wrote:To be quite painfully honest, the majority of my encounters with Wiccans both online and in real life (pauses a moment) could have been better. I had been quasi-atheistic for a while but decided to go on a soul search once again, considering myself an agnostic and an open-minded "seeker" at the time. I felt very put off by them for various reasons. For their talk about doing no harm, I was on the receiving end of behavior that was nothing short of harassment or even hostility, depending on the individual. There was only one rare exception to that years ago, a fifteen year old girl new to the craft, but that was about it.Honest, folks, I did not start anything with them and I even had other people witnessing it who wondered what was their problem and why they would act out like that at me. This was about ten years ago so maybe a lot has changed since then. Maybe they just became Wiccan for all the wrong reasons and I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and saw bad example. I don't know, but whatever their reasons, my encounters with them were not so good. Everyone's entitled to their religions (within reason of course as with anything) but they often treated me like an enemy at the drop of a hat. I was able to get specifics from one of them once: she found out I was Virgo and did not like Virgoes. (!?!?!?!?!)
Sorry, no. Wicca as a religion and practice was created by Gerald Gardner in 1951, drawing inspiration from the Witch-Cult that Gardner claimed he was initiated into by Dorothy Clutterbuck in 1939. What you are referring to is the pre-Christian pagan religion of the British Isles and Europe. It does not predate Paganism as it was paganism. However, it does predate Neo-Paganism.lilmizsunshine727 wrote:[
Actually I just wanted to make a correction to this. Wicca is the oldest religion in the world. It predates Paganism by at least 200 years and Christianity by at least 400 years.