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Postby CleverlyDisguised » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:42 pm

So I am a long time pagan and in that time I have gone through many flavours of occult practices... I have practiced the qabal, I have been a Goetic invoked, I have been a chaos magician just to name a few... so how do you lot feel about some of those? Like what are the preconceptions people have about chaos magicians or goetic practitioners for example. View? Insights? Rants and ramblings?
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Postby SpiritTalker » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:48 pm

My view is they are head-oriented, and complex, based on study and memorization. The study can be so focussed on power that it sometimes skips over the wisdom that makes the power possible.

Edit- upon reflection, that latter point is true of any magical system. It just appears that kabbala seems to attract the head-focussed folk, educated type more than the dirt and grit, touchy-feely type. We need a bit of both. Use our heads and our hearts.
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Re: What are people's opinions/experiences with....?

Postby CleverlyDisguised » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:31 pm

SpiritTalker wrote:My view is they are head-oriented, and complex, based on study and memorization. The study can be so focussed on power that it sometimes skips over the wisdom that makes the power possible.

Edit- upon reflection, that latter point is true of any magical system. It just appears that kabbala seems to attract the head-focussed folk, educated type more than the dirt and grit, touchy-feely type. We need a bit of both. Use our heads and our hearts.
i agree, my first exposure to magick was Wicca.. thats how I ended up meeting a bunch of new-age-fluffy-bunny wiccans (that just means the type that thinks "I'm a good person so nothing bad could possibly happen to me")
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Postby SnowCat » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:47 pm

Fluffy bunnies are cute. My cat wanted to chase one.

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Postby SpiritTalker » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:56 pm

My first exposure to magic was satanism, thru a college dorm room mate, but we won't go there. :D it shook the fluff off the bunny.
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Postby CleverlyDisguised » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:02 pm

Lmao I hear that ST
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Postby RyukaAscendant » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:50 am

My first experience with magic was noticing the energy that flows in and around me through meditation. If I hadn't gotten into martial arts it may have taken me longer but I'm pretty sure I'd have eventually begun walking this path.
I never could quite get into the ritualism of Wicca. Most of my spells are more like small poems rarely more than 4 lines one of the reasons I feel close to Odin and the Norse.
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Re: What are people's opinions/experiences with....?

Postby Corbin » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:46 am

Regarding Chaos Magicians; I've noticed in the past a lot of concern over the chaos magician maxim of Belief being a tool, usually by people who fail to distinguish the difference between belief and faith; belief being an exercise in Will, an intellectual choice and one that can and does change over time (Faith being a spiritual imperative).

Ive seen a lot of labelling of Chaos Magic as "unwise", yet wisdom in my experience is the attribute of the practitioner, not the path they walk - no path or person is above both wisdom and folly.
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Postby Bychan Wulf » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:07 am

SpiritTalker wrote:My first exposure to magic was satanism, thru a college dorm room mate, but we won't go there. :D it shook the fluff off the bunny.

Ugh, not a very nice way of getting introduces to the craft!

My first experience: I was afraid of darkenss (still am ( and in order to be able to go to the basement or sleep by myself, I casted protection spell from the eutm site. I felt the heat and a protective bubble around myself. Repeating those words untill I got away from the dark place, even at my grandparents' house which is really creepy, helped a lot.
This and the fact that when I got electrocuted, I didn't have a problem and my mom was thrown through the glass door, from the same electric shock; made me believe in magic and nothing could prove me wrong. :D

About Chaos magick, it sounds like the opposite of what I am using tye craft for. Not very friendly and peaceful...al I wrong?
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Re: What are people's opinions/experiences with....?

Postby SpiritTalker » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:34 pm

We learn from every experience. I figured out what was being done to me. We went through a lot of the learning process together. We actually got along OK after that.
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Postby CleverlyDisguised » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:09 pm

ST, you changed your profile picture! (Completely unrelated)
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Postby Bychan Wulf » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:57 pm

CleverlyDisguised wrote:ST, you changed your profile picture! (Completely unrelated)

What? I still see the old one.
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Postby Newbiewitch94 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:16 am

SpiritTalker wrote:My first exposure to magic was satanism, thru a college dorm room mate, but we won't go there. :D it shook the fluff off the bunny.


Oh dear
I remembe once upon a time i was drawn to that path wanting vengance
Thankfully i didnt have the guts to go through with it
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Postby Hagerman420 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:43 am

SpiritTalker wrote:My first exposure to magic was satanism, thru a college dorm room mate, but we won't go there. :D it shook the fluff off the bunny.




Same here Satanism. I remember studying it in grade 8 with 4 others in my class, somehow we convinced the teacher to allow satanism to be one of the topics to study haha..
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Re: What are people's opinions/experiences with....?

Postby SpiritTalker » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:06 pm

My room mate was highly intelligent, with few scruples. She read a lot & we'd discuss what she read. When she experimented with satanism, she asked me to act as the battery (aka fall-guy). In doing so, I lost so much weight that my clothes hung on me, and I often felt drained. Small wonder. By reading one of her Anton LeVey books and educating myself, I figured out that I was being put in a "sucker" position. if anything went wrong, I'd take the brunt, not her. So I objected to being used, and refused to take part. She switched to studying Cabala and ceremonial magic, and was a driving force in our college paranormal study group. She introduced the group to mediumship. :evilwitch: so I had a broad, extremely general intro into assorted magical processes before witchcraft.
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