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Pishoguery

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:23 pm
by Black Cloud
I was reading a book this weekend and came across the term pishoguery. It was described as Irish sorcery and witchcraft. Irish witchcraft is thousands of years old and predates Christianity. I've never heard the term pishoguery before reading it last night.

In this particular book it also states that Saint Patrick burned the written incantations of the Druids. I was always lead to believe that the Druids did not have any written records and most of the information we have today about the Druids is passed on through Roman historical records.

Just wanted to share a couple of interesting points.

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:13 pm
by SpiritTalker
Out of curiosity what was the book title you read it in?

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:57 pm
by Black Cloud
SpiritTalker wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:13 pm Out of curiosity what was the book title you read it in?
Weird Ways Of Witchcraft By Dr. Leo L. Martello

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:18 am
by SpiritTalker
Thanks. I think I might’ve read that - it seems familiar 🤔

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:06 am
by Mr Crowley
Is this the text?

>>The Irish clergy are up in arms. "Some people seem to be indulging in pishoguery around here," canon Peter O'Sullivan of Listowel said, "and some of my parishioners are disturbed." Irish witchcraft is thousands of years old and predates Christianity. St. Patrick once publicly burned the written incantations of the Druids.<<

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:21 am
by Black Cloud
Mr Crowley wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:06 am Is this the text?

>>The Irish clergy are up in arms. "Some people seem to be indulging in pishoguery around here," canon Peter O'Sullivan of Listowel said, "and some of my parishioners are disturbed." Irish witchcraft is thousands of years old and predates Christianity. St. Patrick once publicly burned the written incantations of the Druids.<<
yes

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:32 am
by Firebird
Seems like a fancy word that has fallen out of favor. In fact so out of favor there is very little reference to it.
All I can tell is it's a word meaning to describe the work that witches do, from old Irish 'piseog' for charm or spell. I have a feeling though, it may be to describe cursing more than other types of spells.
Too bad Martello left us early he would have been a very influential person in the magick community.
BB, FF

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:38 am
by SpiritTalker
Whenever I imagine St Patrick driving the snakes from Ireland a picture comes to mind of a cleric driving a green car with a back seat full of snakes making comments like “Are we there yet? I’m hungry. I need to stop near a bush.”

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:43 am
by Black Cloud
SpiritTalker wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:38 am Whenever I imagine St Patrick driving the snakes from Ireland a picture comes to mind of a cleric driving a green car with a back seat full of snakes making comments like “Are we there yet? I’m hungry. I need to stop near a bush.”
:lol:

I was lead to believe that there was never snakes in Ireland and that Saint Patrick driving them out was a Catholic myth.

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:17 pm
by Firebird
Black Cloud wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:43 am
SpiritTalker wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:38 am Whenever I imagine St Patrick driving the snakes from Ireland a picture comes to mind of a cleric driving a green car with a back seat full of snakes making comments like “Are we there yet? I’m hungry. I need to stop near a bush.”
:lol:

I was lead to believe that there was never snakes in Ireland and that Saint Patrick driving them out was a Catholic myth.
LoL Spirit, I never thought of them being put in the back seat :P
It's an interesting point to ponder though, If it weren't the Druids he was driving out, what could it have meant?
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/wildhunt/ ... myths.html

Re: Pishoguery

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:11 pm
by SpiritTalker
I always thought “snakes” was a metaphor for Druids & pythoness priestesses.