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[twisted_sista13]

Well, here it is......

I was introduced to a form of Christi-Wicca by my father at age 7 or 8 and have been practicing magic ever since. However, I jumped around paths a wee bit. I was Wiccan for about 2 1/2 years and started getting into Greek Reconstructionism for about five years. But then, It became a little redundant and it felt like i had to go through so many different deities to get certain results.....and had to sacrifice daily to each of them to keep them "on my side". It felt like i was going no where with it.

So then, i started looking into different Christian faiths that stroked my fancy, and although i think i believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ, there are a lot of things which really bother me about Christianity. Such as....they don't recognize a feminine counter part to/of God and many Christians don't have a faith which glorifies nature as being important or at least "a little sacred".

So now I’m looking BACK into Wicca. And I have some beliefs that might be a problem in the wiccan and pagan community i heard. Well, I hope not.
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*I believe that God is BOTH male and female. But also transcends sex and gender. I believe that if you were to cut God in two…you would get (a) God and God-dess. (I believe that God is Energy...made up of masculine and feminine energies....)

*I don’t believe that the ancient mainstream deities are real, physical entities governing our cosmos, but that they represent our ancestor’s search for connection and truth about the reality of Divinity. And that they might also represent the different truths and identities of "God" (OR...The Great Spirit/The One....)

*I believe in the Spirits of the natural world. Spirits or Gods who are almost anonymous to us, or without names. I believe they reside in every aspect of nature and that they are very powerful entities.

*I believe that in religion….you need an emotional connection First. You need to feel God’s breath on your shoulders in the wind, and God’s touch on your face in the rays of the moon or the sun. I believe that in religion, there should be fun. There should be dancing and singing, ritual, magic and mystery. That there should be respect and maturity. Intelligence and strength and wisdom.

*There are times when I believe in Jesus Christ as my SAvior, but there are times when I believe he was just a Great Man. Closer to this force (God) than most and was more intouch with his God-head then most. :/

So, am I able to practice and consider myself Wiccan and still have these beliefs?

Love,
Twisted_sista13

[ImperfectAngel]

Personally, I would say yes....There are many people, including myself, that mix christianity with wicca/ witchcraft. I grew up catholic, but there are things I don't believe in, in the christian faith, and never will. Luckily for me my grandfather was a witch and taught me a few things here and there, so I was able to see at an early age a difference. I practice both, but I lean more towards witchcraft. There is several types of wiccan out there that believe different things. You just seem to have a more eclectic state of mind...and there's nothing wrong with that. So I would say YES, you can concider yourself a wiccan..Go with what feels right to you
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[twisted_sista13]

how do you combine them?? What do u believe in??

[LeoMoon]

I don't feel that your beliefs are out of place in the pagan community at all! I think that when you get right down to it, God does not have a face or gender, s/he is an energy that is in everything and in each one of us. Thinking of the gods and goddesses of old as archetypal faces of this one energy for us to better relate to, might be a more palatable view.
I am definitely not a Christian but I have read the Bible (a good deal of it in sparknotes mind you) and I do find Jesus' teachings to be enlightened. Corruptions in the Church and Fanaticism have done more harm than any devil.
Also, the belief in spirits in nature and that everything has a spirit is part of any earth-based spirituality. Just ask a native-american.

I 100% agree with your statement...

"*I believe that in religion….you need an emotional connection First. You need to feel God’s breath on your shoulders in the wind, and God’s touch on your face in the rays of the moon or the sun. I believe that in religion, there should be fun. There should be dancing and singing, ritual, magic and mystery. That there should be respect and maturity. Intelligence and strength and wisdom. "

Except I might replace "religion" with "spirituality".

Blessings,
Leo
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The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. ~Shakespeare

[twisted_sista13]

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I agree! Actually. I think my issue lies in me trying to apease everyone else around me. Instead of asking the big question: What does "Twisted_Sista13" really believe?

Now i'm trying to start over/from scratch. Finding out how to get started again! lol

My fiance tells me that I should still do Bible study with his mother because it's importand to her and she tells me that our daughter needs to be raised in a Christian household with modern Christian traditions. I dunno what to do about that....but to just do it! (There is importance in tradition)

<3

[Greymalkin]

'Wicca' - in the sense of the religion that was made up by Gerald Gardner and Doreen Valiente in the 1950's has been watered down greatly in the last 50 years thanks to many Christians coming to the religion and bringing with them all their christian guilt and notions of sin.

You only have to look at some of the posts on this forum to see a lot of people agonising over simple things like 'protection spells' and 'binding spells' to see that even though they may call themselves Wiccan they are obviously still very christian at heart.

My personal opinion on this subject is if you are leaving one religion to follow another then your previous religion must be left behind - completely.
I disagree with bringing 'aspects' of one religion to another religion simply because it does neither religion any good to have all this mixing and blending going on.

If you find it difficult to leave christianity behind and/or difficult to fully absorb everything about Wicca then maybe you should stay a christian.
One thing I have seen over and over again with people who turn to Wicca is the realisation that everything about christianity is a complete bunch of crap.

If you haven't yet made that realisation for yourself then maybe you're not quite ready to leave that religion.
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[LeoMoon]

[twisted_sista13]

Well, I was a Greek Recon for about 5 years!! Before that? Wiccan. Before that? nothing really.

[twisted_sista13]

I've never been a Christian. It's just not true to who I am as a person.

[Greymalkin]