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The Witch's Rune

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:02 am
by LC
I was reading The Witch's Rune by Doreen Valiente. It says "Queen of Heaven, Queen of Hell" Most of what I have read says most do not believe in hell and that we go to the Summerland not heaven. So I am confused about the meaning of those 2 titles.

Re: The Witch's Rune

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:44 am
by SpiritTalker
They are synonymous with upper and lower realms, or realms of the gods and realms of underworld spirits. Witches do use plain English with their own meanings attached.

Re: The Witch's Rune

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:39 pm
by Corbin
I would add that the Goddess has "myriad names and manifold attributes"; at the heart of the dark goddess is the light goddess, at the heart of the light goddess is the dark goddess; she would hold both titles of such conceptual extremes.

I never take poetical allusions literally.

Re: The Witch's Rune

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:05 pm
by LC
Oh okay! What attributes are associated with the dark goddess?

Re: The Witch's Rune

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:53 pm
by SpiritTalker
The Dark Goddess is a pretty big subject. Dark is not synonymous with discord, but with unseen. Dark/unseen includes the underworld and all un-seen, non-corporeal beings, and the natural death and rebirth cycles, also plants - think of all the seeds, roots and support system underground, caves, astral/ethereal experiences, unconscious soul-urges, earth critters that transform like caterpillars/butterflies, tadpoles/frogs, any being that is part one thing and part another or that can shape shift, the Fetch. The dark goddess would be associated with all of these. Primordial is a word often used, referring to a self-sustaining genesis of life force from the void.

White is a color of death surprisingly. Dead bones are sort of a dirty white color - Can't be too particular. A Burial shroud sheet is unbleached cloth, & the White Lady, White Goddess is a visitor from the underworld. So the Dark Mother can be white or black, black being absent light to see by, and thus being unseen, and of the night.

Do some research. And if you have any concerns on what you read, folks will contribute.

Re: The Witch's Rune

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:05 am
by Corbin
I suggest the book "Kissing the Hag" by Emma Restall Orr as a thought provoking place to start .. however it is perhaps easier to begin with the Goddesses lighter aspects first?