Everything Under the Moon

..like to bug me and my friends -_-

i have a pentagram around my neck alll the time i never take it off and they see it and start talking about how i'm going to hell unless i turn to god and when i walk away then like to walk with me and they dont shut up

i hate when people press there religion on me

JW's show up at my friends house all the time to have religious debates with them. He's a serious christian. I think it's funny hearing them argue. I just sit there and play World of warcraft and listen to them go at it.

I love your tactic fuzzball.

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HAHA, yeah, I beast it up with a lvl 58 gnome warlock(demonology buff) which is as "demonic/non christian" as it gets, and play it right next to the christian debate.

All the JW's I have talked to are convinced that I am a Satan worshiper. I stopped caring awhile back and it really helped. Actually I don't really care what people think of my practices, because my faith is my faith and their faith is there's.

A sure fire way to get 'em to stop coming is to answer the door naked.

hi,

I know all about JW's because i used to be when i younger, but i was kicked out because i am pagan. they turned their backs and with a sicking of self obsive behavior. let me tell u a story.

I was 13 years old and i was playing on the swings and i was bit by a bee which i am highly aleric and i became so dizzy too, i saw JW that i knew I asked her to help me she pushed me down and she said i was sinner for drugs. she actually believed i was fing stoned out my mind. she left me there and everything went black. the found out later the store owner found me and called 911. my face was so swollen i could see and bearly could breathe. she left me to die, that bi--h, all i could think of is revenge because what she did to me,. i was so full hate. I knew where she worked. I went there when i better i ripped her a new ahole and attempted murder. she said get out I screamed F u beyat00. Then i left but i still wanted revenge. I was so angery when i was 13 and i was betrayed the person i knew.

keep away from JW's they are dangerious, i know everything about them, and u see them tell theim u where banished for smoking. they will never come back. then they never talk to u again since in their eyes ur evil and they usualy run away.

blessed be

I saw this thread and just had to reply because it made me laugh! I was brought up a JW actually. I absolutely HATED going out in service, going to the Kingdom Hall, and having to listen to all their crap. I mean seriously, I was five and I didn't agree at all with what they were saying! I went along with it to make my mom happy. Gradually, I've been able to back down from it in baby steps. I don't go out in service, my whole family only goes to the Kingdom Hall once a year, and my mom is steadily becoming used to essential oils and my excessive use of candles and incense. Recently she got on board with my reading Tarot as well, so its all a good step in the right direction. I haven't completely come out and told that I'm Pagan yet, but I think she gets the idea. ^_^

Sorry, I didn't actually read this whole thread, but as I understand the JW has stopped their door to door proselytizing. I think because of the pandemic. So I'm not sure if the will ever pick that up again.
Bb, F.

About a year into the pandemic, the JWs started phoning me and asked if I wanted a message a day which I declined. They also said they left a magazine in the mailbox which I never saw. Thankfully I haven't heard a word from them since. I live in an area that has a supermailbox for most of the neighbours. I guess they put magazines in those mail boxes. For some unknown reason, the post office didn't assign us a box so we still have mail service to our house. There are a few more neighbours who also have mail delivered to their house. So I guess the JWs are phoning and mailing people now which is too bad because I'd invite them in for tea and tarot just to see their reaction, lol.

Now here's a true story about some JWs, in a city near me, that was on the news some years back. The police pulled over a car and found a bunch of skyclad people in it, some people were in the trunk. This happened in November with snow on the ground. The JWs said they drank tea from India. I'm sure the tea was laced with something to make them go that crazy. So offering a JW tea might remind them of what went so wrong on that day and the offer should get them running away from me.

On the topic of science as an accurate tool for understanding how nature works, I thought it would be thought-provoking to point out that even something as accepted as evolution originally had many different interpretations as to how it worked. You had many people besides Darwin putting forward their own theories like Alfred Russell Wallace and Lamarck.

Darwin's was the one whom everyone agreed was the most scientific, not because he was its sole discoverer, but because it was the only one with supernatural elements absent. That is something we pagans should be very watchful of.

The other theories of evolution that believed the entire earth was alive (see: Gaia Hypothesis) were still challenging Darwin's materialistic interpretation pretty much until DNA was discovered in the 20th century, but even with our super cool microscopes and digital tech, you still have to take notice of certain hypocrisies such as mainstream scientists denying (or discrediting) Einstein's mysticism, and socialist political views, or Niels Bohr's more controversial ideas.

I think science has helped and harmed the craft in different ways, and has been an ally as well as an enemy at various times depending on the time and place, but it is very much the case that one would not exist without the other, and for that reason I believe this is relevant to the discussion. Many scientists (like the alchemists) started out as pagans but did not live to see their experiments become successful formulas for medicine and other practical purposes.

On the subject of religious dogmatism, I will say that not only do people have a right to their own religion, but that it should include any and every religion that does not deny someone that freedom, and the irony is, without science, it would actually be even harder to convert someone to christianity because then there would be no standard for measuring nature to accurately determine the truth and therefore it would be wild and untamable again.

I am glad science exists though, or we would have another witch hunt. There are no Jehova's witnesses where I live, but a lot of Catholics and Protestants, and while they mostly leave me alone, I think there is a very strong collective memory of how these groups used to act, before the age of Enlightenment happened, that still makes me suspicious at times of how they would react if something drastic changed.