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Reusing candles

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:54 am
by goth-kid555
i wonder if anyone good at casting circles can help me here..

i read at different places that when u want to cast a circle u need to have 4 candles ,placing them on the directions on south north east west,...
my question is ,if i want to cast a spell,where do i put the extra candles?do i add them from the beggining and place them on the circle then light them when i start the spell ritual ?or do i replace the candles and use other ones after casting the circle and meditate?
it's kinda hard for me to get many candles coz it's hard to find such ritual candles and they'r pretty expensive.
and i'v also read that each set of candles must be used for different purpose,like the ones used for casting a spell mustn't be used for casting a circle or meditation ,etc...

other thing is that some spells or rituals need various colors,is it a must?
as i said before they'r hard to get,can't i use an alternate color?

sorry for all those questions but reading many books makes me getting more confused and i donnu what to belive and what to do

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:10 am
by Sobek
goth-kid wrote:it's kinda hard for me to get many candles coz it's hard to find such ritual candles and they'r pretty expensive.
and i'v also read that each set of candles must be used for different purpose,like the ones used for casting a spell mustn't be used for casting a circle or meditation ,etc...

ive never heard of that, as for "ritual" candles, are they just candles someone else has empowered?

as for circle casting ive never come across one that requires candles

goth-kid wrote:other thing is that some spells or rituals need various colors,is it a must?
as i said before they'r hard to get,can't i use an alternate color?

many say no but it depends on if you really want them there, and some people have no problem with subbing colours with white or black or a colour with similar associations.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:20 am
by [ForestWitch]
You don't have to use candles to mark all the quarters. I use a bowl of salt and a piece of malachite to mark north, incense to mark east, a red candle (I use a votive in a little glass container) to mark south and a bowl of water to mark west.

Any other candles I use go in the middle of the circle, on an altar if I'm using one. (I don't always use one if I'm doing an outdoor ritual and am going to have to cart stuff a fair distance.) When I light the candles depends on what I'm doing, but the lighting is usually part of the spell or ritual.

You don't have to use the colors specified in a spell if they're hard for you to get - you can always substitute plain white utility candles which are quite inexpensive. I like to use colored candles, but I don't always buy ritual candles per se from wiccan supply stores. You can often find good prices on a wide variety of colored candles just by watching for sales. The only color I routinely buy from wiccan supply stores is black because I typically only use a black candle for a banishing spell. In this case, I think it's important that the candle be black and since it often involves burning the candle down below a water line, I don't want to mess around cutting the candle to the correct height so I don't have to wait all night for the candle to burn down! :lol:

I don't use the same candles for different purposes, but I do re-use candles. At least, I reuse the candle I use to mark the south quarter and I reuse the trio of white pillars I use for esbats, but I don't reuse spell candles. Sometimes I craft spells that involve relighting the candle for a particular period of time, though.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:27 am
by goth-kid555
but can you reuse the candles for the same spell?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:30 am
by [ForestWitch]
My edit partially answered that. I haven't ever cast the exact same spell twice, but if you want to keep renewing the energy of the spell, craft it to be an ongoing spell.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:45 pm
by [Enlightenment]
Honestly, don't read too much into certain websites or other people on other forums who tell you "It has to be done like this, blah, blah, blah." Unless you're Initiated into a Traditional Coven then it doesn't have to be done in an exact certain way, but people love to tell you it does. Books and websites should be used as guidelines only. The best Magick is when it's imbued with your own ideas and your own intentions, not what someone else has told you to do!

When I cast Circle 9/10 times I don't mark it with anything. If I was working Magick with someone else then maybe I would mark the Circle out so we both new where the boundaries were and so we wouldn't step out of them. As I'm on my own I feel I don't need to mark the Circle out (I trust myself not to step out - I think :lol: ). My Altar is in the middle and I cast Circle around the Altar and me (make sure you have everything you need though so you don't need to break the Circle). My Circle is cast with pure, bright white light (3 times) and I feel I really don't need candles etc, to mark it. Plus, I have the Four Quarters marked out on my Altar already which is in the middle of the Circle so I don't feel the need to do it twice. If you do, that's cool, go for it, if not, no worries! It is totally up to you at the end of the day.

If I use say...... a purple candle for a Spell I'm doing and it hasn't burned down by the time I've finished the Spell I'll save that candle (but not use it again for anything else), I'll just keep it or bury it in my garden.
If I want to give that Spell an extra oomph I'll light the saved candle from that Spell and let it burn down a little more each night until it's totally finished. I personally just don't mix candles or anything else for that matter (if its been used for a certain Spell I won't use it again for anything else but that Spell).

Good Luck, and keep us posted :D

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:04 pm
by [ravenwing]
I mark the directions not with candles, but rather with a set of amethyst crystals I have. There's no need to use candles for this purpose. You can use anything you want to mark them.

"Ritual candles" arent something you buy -- theyre something you create.
you buy an candle of the proper color (see table below). In the absence of the proper color, white can always be used. You then "Annoint" it for the specific purpose you have in mind. Dont ever wastes your hard earned money buying so-called ritual candles. For one, you can do it yourself. Secondly, how do you actually know theyve been charged with the same intent you would have?

ANY colored candle works just fine.... and btw dont reuse them another time -- youre supposed to burn the candle completely when you do your ritual/spell..therefore there wouldnt be any to reuse.

You can buy colored candles for around 50-75 cents each, so it shouldnt be a very expensive proposition to keep plenty around for whenever you need them. (Not for a second am I trying to get you to buy these from me -- cause youd have to pay for shipping as well, but in my online shop they sell for $7.95 for 20 candles - about 40 cents a piece). Theyre called "chime candles" in most stores, or mini candles. - 1/4 in x 6in - and burn all the way down in about an hour. Most dollars stores have them.

Black – Are used for Banishing evil or negativity as in uncrossing rituals, Crone Magic, Mourning a loss, Meditation, Feminine Divinity, Samhain. Also used in rituals to induce a deep meditational state. This candle attracts Saturn energy.

Light Blue - Is a spiritual colour and is helpful in devotional or inspirational meditations. It brings peace and tranquillity to the home and radiates Aquarius energy. Use in situations that need to be synthesized.

Royal Blue - Is the colour of Loyalty and is used to promote Laughter and Joviality. Use it to promote Jupiter energy and whenever an influence needs to be increased.

Blue – Is symbolic of the spirits of the West, and the elements of Water. It is used in rituals to obtain Wisdom, Peace, Healing, Tranquillity, Truth, Sleep, Prophetic Dreams, Friendship, Physical Protection and Hope.

Brown – Is symbolic of the spirits of the North, and the elements Earth. It is used for rituals involving Animal Magic and the Home in regards to Material Increase. It eliminates Indecisiveness and improves the Powers of Concentration, Study and Telepathy. Use it also for increasing Financial Success and for locating Lost Objects.

Gold – Fosters understanding and attracts the power of cosmic influences. Use it in rites intended to bring about fast luck or money. When communicating with Solar Deities and for honouring the Gods. This candle generates solar energy.

Grey – Is a neutral colour and is useful when pondering complex issues during meditation. In magic, this colour often sparks confusion. It also negates and/or neutralizes a negative influence.

Emerald Green - This candle is important in Venusian rituals. It attracts Love, Social Delights and Fertility.

Dark Green – Are used for Beauty, Employment, Fertility, Healing, Success, Good Luck, Prosperity, Heart Matters, Money and Masculine Divinity. Being the colour of Ambition, Greed and Jealousy, it can be used to counteract these influences in a ritual.

Orange – Are used for Creativity, Attraction, Stimulating Energy, Legal Matters, Success, New Home, Intelligence and Mental Clarity. It charges and recharges the intellect and combines with any other candles to stimulate their actions. Use for rituals stipulating Mercury energy, and sometimes-solar energy. Also used during Samhain.

Pink – Promotes Romance and Friendship, and is the standard colour used for rituals to draw affections. It is used for Love, Honour, Friendship and Fidelity. A colour of femininity, it brings lively conversation to the dinner table.

Purple – Are used for Psychic Ability, Wisdom, Spirituality, Success, Independence, Spiritual Growth, Power, Healing and the Feminine Divine. Ideal for rituals to secure Ambitions and Financial Rewards. Increases Neptune energy.

Red – Is symbolic of the spirits of the South, and the elements of Fire. It is used for Strength, Courage, Power, Passion, Health, Energy, Vitality, Love and Will Power. It increases magnetism in rituals and draws on Aries and Scorpio energy.

Silver – Is used to remove Negativity, encourage Stability and helps to develop Psychic abilities. Use for Protection, Honouring the Goddess, Telepathy and Clairvoyance. This candle attracts the influence of the Goddess.

White – Is a balance of all colours and is used for Meditation, Healing, Truth Seeking, Peace, Spiritual Strength and Enlightenment, Rituals involving "Lunar" energy, Purity, Protection, Happiness, Masculine Divinity, and may be substituted for any other colours.

Yellow – Is symbolic of the spirits of the East, and the elements of Air. It is used for Charms, Confidence, Attraction, Wisdom, Visions, Psychic Powers, Mental Powers, Activity, Creativity and Unity. Use it to bring the power of concentration and imagination to the success of a ritual. Also used in rituals where you need to gain someone's confidence or need to persuade someone. This candle generates solar energy.

Magenta - Is a combination of Red and Violet that oscillates on a high frequency. It energizes rituals where immediate action is needed, or high levels of power and spiritual healing are required.

Indigo - Is the colour of inertia. It is used to stop situations or people’s intentions. Use it in rituals that require deep meditation and rituals that require Saturn energy.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:13 pm
by [ForestWitch]
Oh yes, I quite agree that you don't HAVE to have anything to cast a circle or to mark the quarters.
"Ritual candles" arent something you buy -- theyre something you create.
Yes, but I've seen some wiccan supply stores call these small colored candles "ritual candles" even when they haven't been prepared. I agree; best to prepare your own.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:50 pm
by jcrowfoot
Yep. I love making candles. I admit, it's not for everyone, but it's fun, and the energy of a candle you've made yourself is pretty cool. However, there are other ways of personalizing store bought candles.
You can buy candle paint to put designs on them.
You can also take anointing oil and use glitter of the color you want, or even a powdered herb. I've even been known to take a candle, melt the base of it with another flame, and then set it into a pile of herbs that I flattened out. It's easier than digging a hole in the base of the candle and loading it that way. Also, you can use this technique with tapers... they still fit in the holder even after you do this.

In my experience, some colors resonate better with some people than others. The colors that work for me best are hard to find, so I tend to order them in quantity, along with black and white. I use those big jar candles for my quarter candles. I re-use them every time I use that circle. Not only are they inexpensive, but if they happen to tip over, they put themselves out! Also, they last a very long time, so you don't have to replace them right away. I found mine in a botanica, but you can also order them on-line.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:11 pm
by [tasha]
I usually just use a white candle for my spells unless it is something extremely important or I have been given special direction/advice from someone else about a spell. Sometimes I use black as well.

Re: candles

PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:22 am
by SpiritTalker
goth-kid555 wrote: ...
i read at different places that when u want to cast a circle u need to have 4 candles ,placing them on the directions on south north east west,...
-my question is ,if i want to cast a spell,where do i put the extra candles? ...
-ritual candles (are) pretty expensive.
-and i'v also read that... the ones used for casting a spell mustn't be used for casting a circle or meditation ,etc...
-other thing is that some spells or rituals need various colors,is it a must? ... can't i use an alternate color?
...reading many books makes me getting more confused and i donnu what to belive and what to do

Re: if I want to cast a spell,where do i put the extra candles? ... Erm, what "extra" candles?
If you're sitting at a standard altar inside a ceremonial ritual cast circle the candle possibilities are: optional "working" candle used to lite all others stays on the table, the altar lights set at the back of the table & whatever spell candle(s) you are prepping waiting in your table workspace. optional 4 quarter candles on the floor. Supply stock can be stored off the altar & underneath the table. We can also dress spell candles ahead of time (like in the kitchen) & carry them to the workspace when we're setting things up.

Re: ritual candles - Save Money & Shop Smarter at variety "dollar" stores. There's no rule that gear must be glitzy & come from new-age stores or that pillar candles must be used as altar lites. Pillars are long lasting & reusable in the next ritual & so are votive candles & tall tapers so use whichever style you like.

re: quarter candles (in the ceremonial method) - placing a light at the quarters is marking a portal like we'd turn on the porch light when expecting guests to arrive. For consistency elemental color markers are placed at the quarters. You could use colored votive candle cups with inexpensive white tea lights. i have nosey cats so I don’t set candles on the floor. Instead I carry one of the altar lights around as I call quarters to illuminate the portal & then return the candle to the table. The quarters can also be marked with 4 stones or even by elemental symbols - E incense, S candle, W bowl of H2O, N stone as others have mentioned.

re: substituting quarter colors - in the ceremonial method we'd use color associations as another layer of symbolism to focus our attention; the spirits couldn't care less what color we use. Symbols are only useful to our subconscious if they are consistent. Substituting any alternate color besides all-purpose white disconnects the symbolism so it's better not to substitute if you use that method. Some suggestions: use colored votive cups, colored saucers under the candles, tie colored ribbon on the holder, use colored stones & just show the same light as you walk around & return the candle to the altar.

RE: spell candle color meanings - Some people use a color code list for candle spell intentions as previously posted or simplified as elemental associations.
. 5 elemental colors: Air-intellect-yellow, Fire-vitality-red, Water-emotions-blue, Earth-practical needs-green, Ether-spirituality-purple;
. Triple moon goddess: all-purpose-white-spiritual, red-power, black-protection

Re: reusing a candles for the same spell:
. It’s OK to snuff a candle & relight it to continue the same spell at another time. 7-segment candles are made to burn one segment per day. Tapers can be etched to mark segments of burn-time.
. 15-hour votives, 5-7 day vigil lights are meant to be reused to extend a spell over a few days.

Re: repurposing candles for multiple intentions - it's preferred to use spell candles for one intent because each spell is "psychically loaded" with a specific intent. Generally a candle should burn all the way down.
. Instead of charging the candle with a different intent for each spell, charge the candle “ to aid all needs” and then write your individual spells on separate petition-papers, dab the paper with oil (:-:) and infuse each petition with its individual intent. Thus the same candle can be re-used for multiple spells without scrambling the magical message.
--> Apetition is a piece of paper on which you write the goal &" it is placed under the candle. Write the goal in very few words 3 times; turn the paper 1/4 turn, over-write the goal three times with the name & DOB of who the spell is for to show they dominate the goal; make a final 1/4 turn & overwrite these with your name to show your will dominates. Lite the candle & time the burn about 90 minutes. Last burn the petition in a heat-safe bowl & snuff the candle flame.

Re: many books & much confusion - different authors share different ideas. There is no one "right" way to do magic because traditions come from diverse cultures & symbols can be different from system to system. The important thing is what symbols mean to you & what works for you & to be consistent within the system you use.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:08 am
by Urggox
goth-kid555 wrote:but can you reuse the candles for the same spell?

I think yes, it become more powerful with time in my opinion. Especially if it is big candles.