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Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:33 am
by Tylluan
I went to the Harry Potter Studios tour and saw all the amazing sets and equipment. We went at Yule and they had all the Trees up in the Great Hall. It was really something. Then there is Diagon Alley which is incredible. The problem is that as a Witch it leaves you feeling sad that life isn't like that. A lot of the items on set are old. They are proper cauldrons with rust and dents and tonnes of pots, pans, old glass bottle, parchment, and quills etc. The books are old, really thick and bound with love. There is so much you could take home from that like to thrift and value older items. Not everything has to be brand new and brought online from some Pagan shop.

The magick is well and truly killed when you leave the tour and end up in the gift shop though. Commercialism at its best, and worst. Screaming children with chocolate frogs and £60 wands running riot. Not good.

I practise and develop my psychic abilities and you always get the 'I've been to a medium who has told me I'm a natural born psychic, I'm so scared of my power and skills'. ARGH! major eye rolling. Some people do naturally seem able in some areas, but rare (non-existent) is the person who is good at it all. Everyone has ability, its whether you choice to use it and practise or not.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:57 pm
by L.J.Hex
No offense but... What do these pics have to do with the topic? :roll:

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:15 am
by SapphireRoad
There are some names of medieval occultists a bit misspelled and made into characters.
Such as Aleister in 3rd book, I think he was trapped in a chest whole time being outplayed by an evil entity 'till the end.

Some other references too.
Headmaster being Albus meaning White. Also reference to Albion within some patriotism.
Severus... well we don't like severity but it's very good for us.
Voldemort that is the french vol de mort meaning flight of the death.
Lupin is from latin lupus meaning wolf
Sirius Black that is cool, Sirius is the dog star and a Black dog is an associate of Hekate.
Bellatrix slaying Sirius... don't how she got the reference. Bellatrix is a star of Orion, although some say that not all stars of Orion are good, Egyptian Osiris Was said to be a combo name of Orion and Sirius ... in obvious friendship.
Lucius as a reference for ... this is hard, there is Lucifuge as the ruler of 3rd shell... also Lucifer which is said to be a falsely glorified form of the concealer Lucifuge meaning the light bearer. If she believed in translation of the name Lucifer that's why she let him become good/neutral in the end.
Draco goes for draconic which is also a struggle as there are good and bad dragons
Malfoy refers to latin languages fare mal = to do evil.
Harry Potter... well Jesus was said to be a potter and Harry could refer to a hare "It's not a rabbit, it's a hare" that would make the Moon & Sun united but I can only wonder if she was aware of that.

With all the misspelled references to medieval occultists & witchcraft clichés & British humour
numbered & counted
Harry Potter is a parody on witchcraft.

I love British humour, I even used to search for "old British movies" just for that... it's just that, when there's British humour in the room, you simply can't take life seriously.

The story was fun and with good flow, but ultimately I hate this kind of stories. Why would there be "a chosen one" to save other's lazy arses? Would make much more sense if everyone would take full charge of his own life and we were all to sit around the round table with no leaders.
Reminds me of W.B. Yeats' poem where a king met a druid and claimed "king is just a foolish slave to others' will".

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:17 pm
by Cigfran
I'm a fan of any positive portrayal of the occult in media. Most of the time it is pictured as key elements that trigger horror movies... or inspiration for serial killers.

The teenage magic book of my generation was the Wizard of Earthsea books; hugely influencial to me, in a positive sense. I'd like to think that Harry Potter did the same for younger generations.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:44 am
by Panthera
I think that works that talk about witchcraft allow us to open up to this world, but that is the rest of fiction. So when I read that schools in the USA remove Harry Potter books from their libraries because they think there are real rituals, it makes me laugh.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:03 am
by Corbin
Panthera wrote:I think that works that talk about witchcraft allow us to open up to this world, but that is the rest of fiction. So when I read that schools in the USA remove Harry Potter books from their libraries because they think there are real rituals, it makes me laugh.


Some CofE schools librarys banned them in the UK too... and boy, did it sell a lot of books. In fact it was the very definition of there being 'no such thing as bad publicity'.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:49 am
by YanaKhan
My sister in law forbid her elder daughter to read the books. She used to come to my house to read them. I don't understand banning books. I read the Bible, it was one of the things that actually made me non - christian :D Besides, as much as I like Harry Potter books, classifying them as witchcraft books is not really serious.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:42 am
by Cigfran
Panthera wrote:I think that works that talk about witchcraft allow us to open up to this world, but that is the rest of fiction. So when I read that schools in the USA remove Harry Potter books from their libraries because they think there are real rituals, it makes me laugh.


It's like the Satanic Panic of the 1980s all over again. Back then, people blamed Dungeons & Dragons for corrupting youth. It's so stupid: in these stories, the good guys fight EVIL, are not part of it. In D&D you battle Demogorgon, not join it. In Harry Potter, the black magic on screen is described as deplorable, used primarily by people in skull masks called DEATH EATERS for criminy's sake!

Ah well, the irrationality of the "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" folks...

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:02 am
by SapphireRoad
Well that is the freedom of speech in its finest isn't it?

Organised Christians say arrogant pride is the greatest sin.
They've robbed 5% of Hebrew culture and act like know-it-alls.

Yeah the best thing about Harry Potter is how a witchcraft story resonates with children. Yet the education is quite a strong pro-atheist brainwash so for most it ain't enough to re-member.

Found this in my archive, it's a journey beyond your doge:

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:46 pm
by Lady_Lilith
I agree with this in the mundane world. In the otherworldly realms it can work like this.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 3:58 am
by Alatorus
It has nothing to do with Wicca or reality. It is just a fiction. Nobody can create Patronus charm. But if your point is to compare the work of practitioner in Wicca, then yes. In a way, one most learn hard and never give up.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:32 am
by SnowCat
We weren't comparing Wicca and Harry Potter. We were comparing witchcraft and Harry Potter. Not everyone who practices witchcraft is Wiccan.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:51 pm
by keren824
:anxious: following...

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:58 am
by L.J.Hex
SnowCat wrote:We weren't comparing Wicca and Harry Potter. We were comparing witchcraft and Harry Potter. Not everyone who practices witchcraft is Wiccan.


A fact worth repeating.

Re: Witchcraft Isn't Like Harry Potter

PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:54 am
by SapphireRoad
More references
Hermoine from Harmonia the Goddess of Valkyries
Name Thomas is said to mean twin thus Tom Riddle twin riddle, a cliché known since Matrix film.

To somehow sum up the essence of the book would require a sequel of some sort
such as
Hairy Butter and the Arsecrawler
starring such dialogues as:
"Hairy Butter, ye've been crawling up principal's arse all year long...
extra 100 points to Grifindoor."