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Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 12:38 pm
by PeakoftheTrees
So, if Wiccans believe in reincarnation, then how does the element of spirit work? How does one do spirit work, when all the spirit is placed inside another body when the body dies?

Also, I've had many Wiccans talk with me about angels. How does this work?

No hate, I'm legitimately curious.

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:11 pm
by Ashrend
IV asked this question myself in a different way. It does depend on if you believe in reincarnation not all pagans /wiccans do. Someone describe it as unless you make yourself strong in spirit and make something of yourself spiritually then when you die your energy just goes back into the collective of the universe. My belief is we all can be reincarnated but once we die it's a choice of sorts what we do next, we don't have to go straight into are next life we can hang around as spirits, visit other planes of exsistance. I believe that this is a little dependant on your specific situation, such as unfinished business, wanting to stay around to protect family, spiritual presence and power ect. I have lived many lives before that IV found out by connecting with my akashik records tho I don't know the full details. I just know IV lived as a human for a fair few lives now, however before that I was a dragon. IV been living as a human because my life as a dragon wasn't fulfilling and complete because I was too young and lacking in knowledge. IV been living as a human to grow my knowledge and my spirit so that when I become a dragon again il be wise and live that life to its fullest

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:47 pm
by PeakoftheTrees
@Ashrend Thanks for responding! Do you know anything about angels and how they work into all this?

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:56 pm
by Ashrend
Sorry to say I don't know anything about angels as I don't work with then.

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:59 pm
by PeakoftheTrees
No problem! Thank you and I feel a connection to what you said.

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:04 pm
by Ashrend
Nw glad I had information that was useful

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:56 pm
by GhostRider
Angels - from the Greek, Angelos. A messenger or go-between. These entities have information or missions to provide you information. You might get a pain in your neck that makes you turn your head and see the car that jumped the curb in time to not be flattened. They can have "powers and abilities" to perform in ways we would consider to be "magical".

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 5:50 pm
by SpiritTalker
I think of the element of spirit as quintessence, as the fluidity of vital force that activates lifeless non-organic matter & not "a" soul occupying the organic body of a person. The english language has so many uses for the one word "spirit" that we can get trapped.

Wiccans and angels sounds more pop-culture-Witchy-wannabe and resonates More with Doreen Virtue than Doreen Valiente. Our modern culture shamelessly mixes philosophies like mixing paint. Ye gods! we mix concepts of Angelic-forces and planetary frequencies with heavenly messengers and the angelic Lesser Banishing Rite of the Pentagram and familiar spirits and sock monkeys! :mrgreen: and I really like sock monkeys.

I am grateful to my guardian angel for saving my bacon more than a few times & that said angel doesn't care a fig what set of beliefs I choose to entertain myself with. Just last winter when my car was stuck in the alley in deep snow, pinned between a snow bank and the garage so I couldn't open a door on either side to exit & all 4 tires spinning. I rolled a window down and yelled for help, hoping to rouse a neighbor. Instantly out of nowhere, I felt somebody push the car free with one shove while i still had my head out the window, and I swear there was no physical person there to push!

Re: Spirit and Reincarnation?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:49 pm
by Lord_of_Nightmares
PeakoftheTrees wrote:So, if Wiccans believe in reincarnation, then how does the element of spirit work? How does one do spirit work, when all the spirit is placed inside another body when the body dies?

Also, I've had many Wiccans talk with me about angels. How does this work?

No hate, I'm legitimately curious.
The element of spirit, also known as 'akasha' and 'aether' is not actually the human spirit. In fact it's closer to be described as the divine air the gods breathe.

I also think people can be in more than one location at a time via the otherworld, so it is possible to talk to one's past self.

Angels.... Well, angels were not originally an Abrahamic concept, and they are not exclusive to it. Ancient Israelite religion, the religion of the Old Testament of the bible, is actually another form of Canaanite pagan religion. El belongs to a pantheon of gods. Angels are a part of that. But most Wiccans I know of do not use angels.