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Spell for apology?

Postby Azura » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:35 pm

There is this person who used me and said mean things to me. I have apologized to him for what I said that offended him. (I have this peace philosophy thing; I view it as unneccessary, pointless, and juvenile to keep any, and especially trivial, arguments thiriving. I would like to be able to forgive people and not hold onto that bitter resentment.) I don't see this person often, but I have seen him twice in school since the "incident"; and it is awkward.. and the way he looks at me.... and... uugghh....

Basically, I want to know if anyone can help me with a spell that I can use to get him to apologize.



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Postby One Walker » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Hi Azura!

Using your gifts to make him apologize may not be the best way to go here. By doing so you are forcing him in to a course of action that apparently he is not yet ready to take. What you may very well end up getting is not only the continuation of your own bitter resentment but also the inflammation of his; which, in turn, will fuel yours even more and start a vicious, descending cycle. Aside from that, you will call back upon yourself the same manipulative, controlling, and bitter forces-only ten times as bad.

One final thing you may want to consider. Is a forced apology worth anything? No, because there is no Heart in it. It would be meaningless, would it not? What then would you really hope to gain? The smug satisfaction of 'having control over him' and 'making' him submit to your Will? Is this not 'unnecessary, pointless, and juvenile'?

I certainly hope this is not the case, and judging by your post I would say it isn't. You say that you want to forgive people and not hold on to that bitter resentment. I really like that philosophy of yours. I think it is a good one and part of a Positive path. So forgive him in your Heart. Let go of that bitter resentment. When he feels in his own Heart that he needs to apologize he will. And if he doesn't, that's his burden of bitter resentment to bear.

Just my .02

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Postby Azura » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:03 pm

Well thank you for your insight One Walker. I considered the concept of a manipulative spell, but the idea of this particular one, to me, didnt seem blatantly so.... But maybe it is.... Like, a love spell, I would think of it in terms of "would I be ok with someone putting that spell on me?". Like, if a guy that I really would have no interest in or be repulsed by of my free will... what if they put a love spell on me?....ewww... (lol). But a spell of forgiveness,.. umm... I don't think i would hate the idea of someone making me forgive them. It is good to forgive people and it is for the greater good. And if I was rrreally mad with someone and I didn't want to forgive them despite my peace philosophy, if i was compelled to do so it would be for the greater good I guess, and i would feel stupid for refusing to accept a genuine apology. I would not be promoting my own philosophy.

But that would just be myyy opinion on that. I see what you mean when you imply that every person is entitled to forgive or hold resentment as they please. And if I happened to be able to get a lousy apology out of him, what would that do? Would he just go back to hating me?...I don't know how it works.

But I dont know what to do in this situation. I feel really terrible when there are bad feelings between myself and another. I don't want people to hate me. The only bad thing that I can recall saying to him was that he was a bad kisser... "your kissing was whack"... Other than that, he just doesn't like me anymore and he used me (and I am embarrassed to disclose the details), and then he proceeded to make fun of me and "diss" me, referring to my anxiety and nervousness problems, and said I was "useless" and no man would want me, and I'm a child and not a woman, and I'm a "retard", and he said he was just using me, and he said "you should do yourself and everyone else a favor and just kill yourself 'cause no one wants you".

And The entire situation just makes it really awkward when I happen to see him again at school.
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Postby One Walker » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:41 pm

Hi Azura!

If the guy said all those things, well, it may be because he's either super-hurt by the 'bad kisser' comment or he's truly a jerk. :roll: I get the feeling from what you said that he's the latter but maybe let him cool off for a while and try to mend fences in a month or so. You may have hit one of his 'buttons' or super-sensitive subjects. If he's still being a butthead in a few weeks then forget him. Some people just don't forgive-and-forget. You're not going to be able to please everyone and not everybody is going to like you no matter what you do. Just be yourself and be kind to others. Most will accept it, and you.

Oh, and maybe next time, instead of telling a guy he's a bad kisser you might want to just keep that comment to yourself and show him how to be a good kisser instead! :D :wink:

Blessings to you!

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Postby Azura » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:43 am

haha.... I said it after he started saying things about me and after I got mad at him... I didn't let anything he said affect me too deeply... Eh,.. I'm trying to forget about the whole thing, and him....
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Postby Witch13 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:47 am

and you want to forgive that as***e???????
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Postby Azura » Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:34 am

I just don't want him being like that to me... =[ ... But hopefully I'll never have to see him again.... There's a rare chance I might end up seeing him at school, and i'm kinda paranoid that I might see him,.. but generally our paths don't cross.
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Postby Witch13 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:00 am

there are things that hurt us, but we also learn from them. learn from what happened to you and move on. and most importantly show him you have moved on the best you can!
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Postby HonorRose » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:43 am

I do agree with One Walker and Witch13, but for the sake of freedom of information, here are a couple of spell options that should have few or no negative consequences:

Untruthfulness Powder

Grind Nutmeg, Mint and Rose Petals into a fine powder. Charge it with your intent, and rub on your hands shortly before seeing the person who has lied to/hurt you. If you touch them with the powder on your hands they will feel encouraged to apologize for their wrongdoings.

The Realization Spell

Write what was done to you on a piece of paper and light it from an alter candle. Let it burn completely and hold the ashes in your hand before your alter. Say:

Wolf and horse old signs of might
Lend to me your strength this night
The pain and grief they so easily give
Must be returned so that they may live
To know and feel what they have done
And change their ways with harm to none
Send back the pain teach them this night
Help them to do what they know to be right

Go outside and scatter the ashes to the wind.

This spell isn't really about getting an apology; It's more to actually try to help someone see the error of their ways. It may work, it may not; I don't know. *Shrug* 'Do what you will but harm not one...'

Neither of these spells are mine originally; I found them both on mojomoon.net (I think).

I would first recommend trying to talk to him on your own. If that doesn't work and it's still important to you, think about whether or not to try a spell. If that still doesn't work, just try to let it go.
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Postby Azura » Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:46 am

Thank you very much for your help. These spells may be a little difficult for me to do,... but.... I would probably try the first one... But I would have to get these ingredients,.. and I don't know if or when I will see this dude again... But I appreciate it and will keep it in mind incase I want to try it.
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Postby Azura » Mon May 11, 2009 9:50 am

Oooo,.... I had made up a spell... I didn't write it down rr anything,.. an' I don't remember it accurately,... but I had wanted that dude to talk to me again an' be nice to me, and I had did this spell a wwwhile ago, and I really wanted it to work but I didn't really completely think it would....... but yesterday he texted me and I was like ..wow...... like, I didn't think he would want to talk to me again.... and I had erased his number from my contacts because I didn't think I would ever need it again, and I didn't want to be tempted to text him again, so I erased the number.. ( after he said "don't text me again", I didn't want to be all desperate for him to talk to me again and annoying him with anymore texts. But if I didnt text him, he'd be like "oh,... she really doesn't care if I don't talk to her anymore....".. and he'll realize he still wants me..).... so he texted me,... and I was seeming all nonchalant and not willing to trust him too easily... and he said he was sorry and he said he wants to chill with me again, and he said "I wasnt myself... I was going through something at the time... I'm very very very very sorry I said that, you didn't deserve it..."..... and he wanted to chill with me before the school semester is over, and I was like ".. I don't know.... I'll see....... If you're full of shit or if you hurt me again Ima f*cking twist ur dick off..."........
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Postby Saulamaye » Mon May 11, 2009 11:58 am

Harm none... do what ye will.

Putting a spell on someone without their permission is going against the Wiccan Rede.

You've apologised... you've done your part.
Forgiving someone is accepting that they did something wrong to you and moving on. This doesn't mean you have to like them or even say "hello" to them if you happen to see them out and about. It just means ... "ok, this person was rude, mean or whatever to me, I acknowledge this, I move on."

I know how hard it is to let go of resentments. Sometimes we just aren't ready to let them go. But I have to look at my part in all of it. Then I have to do what 's right for me.... clean up my side of the street, so to speak. That will usually include me saying "I'm sorry". Then it is all on them. I've done my part. Then it's my choice if I want to let it go or drink more poison.
Resentments are like YOU drinking the poison hoping the other person dies!
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Postby Azura » Mon May 11, 2009 3:43 pm

Alright. I'll keep that in mind. I don't think I would plan to do anymore spells that involve messing with someone's free will.
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