Well put Sobek and Eretik. . .fickle arts indeed!
We cannot discount the power of Pluto. Its discovery led to a century of disasterous transformations that will be felt for generations. It is interesting that whenever a new body is discovered in our solar system that the world changes dramatically. They discovered Uranus in the 19th Century and sure enough, the technical industrial revolution ensued. Pluto in 1929 and sure enough, Great Depression, World Wars, Holocaust, Internet, theories of Dark matter and dark energy, globalization--all of this and more can be branded under Pluto's jurisdiction. Pluto does share resonances with Mars so if you believe in demotions, then you can put Scorpio back with Mars if you like, but Pluto's energy is much deeper and longer lasting than Mars. It is ironic, because Pluto is all about death and rebirth (intergenerational) and its status shifts are indicative of its deeply transformative energy. Hence, Pluto is alive and well, and perhaps even more powerful with its new attention.
This century we are in for it--with the discovery of Eris (formerly Xena) things will really begin to unfurl. . . I will write a post about Eris in the next week or two as I have been researching it (and the Goddess) for about a month now. Let's just say that it may time to embrace the chaos at the heart of existence!!! But more on Eris soon. . .
As for the Dark Moon Lilith, Eretik, I do work with it, but don't give it as much energy since it is not even a body but rather a point in the sky. It represents the apogeee of the moon--the point where the moon is furthest away from the earth. The lilith sign is supposed to represent areas of sexuality and independence--our ability to say NO! and mean it! But there is another Lilith taht is is already a body in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. . .hmmm. . . Should we give more attention to an actual body in the solar system or a mathematical point? I do use the Black Moon, but only give it the energy I would give an asteroid.
Chiron, on the other hand is quite a magnificient comet. It runs between Saturn and Uranus and can be said to garner aspects of both (incompatible) planets. So it has the structure and indentity of incarnational limits plus the ability to free from those rigid structures and come up with something new from out the ether. It is the position of the faith healer and communicator between warring factions in a chart. When Capricorn wars with Aquarius, I argue that the third energy between them is a mix of Pisces and Sagittarius. So, Chiron partakes of both these energies, plus the energy of Saturn and Uranus. Therefore, it has every element in it to draw from (Earth, Fire, Air, Water) which is why it can produce profound yet practical changes in the ability to manifest spirit on earth.
Hope this helps... watch for the Eris post in the next week or two!