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How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

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How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby casnarl » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:40 pm

So my concept of writing a petition is to write down what I want to happen, and put some herbs and/or oils on it. Leave it on my night stand while I sleep then fold it up and stick it in my boot or another safe place.
But I feel like I'm missing something. How does it actually work? Like is it just the universe reads it and then goes about the process of it happening (or not happening) and that's it? I just kind of feel like it's not going anywhere, or I'm missing the step to really put it out there, ya know?
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby corvidus » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:46 pm

Usually, petitions are directed towards entities. Your spiritual guides, guardian angels, gods or goddesses, spirits, etc.

Petitioning towards the universe is more like posting a help wanted ad. People will probably look at it, but there’s no guarantee someone will apply for the job.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby casnarl » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:52 pm

corvidus wrote:Usually, petitions are directed towards entities. Your spiritual guides, guardian angels, gods or goddesses, spirits, etc.


So what am I thinking of then? What I'm doing is basically like dumbing down the whole spell process to just writing on paper on the days/nights I don't have time to get all the goodies out. I thought that was what petitions were but maybe its something else.

In any case, how does [whatever I'm actually doing] work? Same way?
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby corvidus » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:54 pm

Haha well you have to think of what a petition actually is in the physical world. Basically, it’s a formal written request from one person (or a group) to an authority (usually a government or agency). This means there is the one person requesting help from another.

From the way you write about it, it sounds like what you’re doing is more in line with “the law of attraction”
You state X desire, and keep it with you until X is made manifest. Not much deferent than using a magnet to attract something into your life, except this time you’re using herbs and words rather than a magnet.

Hmm, what would you call it? “ Sympathetic magic” is a good start. Sympathetic to mean producing an effect which is similar to the action or cause created at the time of the spellwork.

Sympathetic magic works on the principles of “like increases like” and the aforementioned “law of attraction” (though some might argue that the law of attraction is just the laws of magnetism)
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby casnarl » Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:52 pm

I guess it's sort of both in a way. I'm asking "The Universe" to do it, but as it's things I want/wish I 'spose it is rather like LOA. I'd just been calling them petitions.

I have a little bit of love/hate with LOA as I feel of all the forces you can't see that LOA is the hardest for me to fathom for whatever reason, so maybe the belief is what I'm missing / why they don't quite seem right.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby corvidus » Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:23 pm

Belief is one thing, experience is another.

Karma is also involved. We don’t just get everything we want when we want it because some blocks are in place (like the belief in something).
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby SpiritTalker » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:11 am

I was thinking of it as tuning the mind in to the right channel. There's a feeling of connecting, like a return "ping" on the mental radar when you hit the sweet spot.

Edit: a petition is a focused written statement of your goal; writing something down is like writing it on the mind.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby casnarl » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:08 pm

That makes a lot of sense SpiritTalker, I always am waiting for that "ping" and maybe I need to stop waiting and just let it come when it does.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby EveningWithAstaroth » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:39 am

Hi casnarl.

Perhaps doing a google run on petitions/ or petition magic will give you an idea on what it is about.

Where Corvidus explained petitions are usually directed to entities, Gods/Goddesses/ Spirit Guides, has gathered a bit of my own interest. I am probably going to do my own google run and search on it now when I get some time.

casnarl wrote:So my concept of writing a petition is to write down what I want to happen, and put some herbs and/or oils on it. Leave it on my night stand while I sleep then fold it up and stick it in my boot or another safe place.
But I feel like I'm missing something. How does it actually work? Like is it just the universe reads it and then goes about the process of it happening (or not happening) and that's it? I just kind of feel like it's not going anywhere, or I'm missing the step to really put it out there, ya know?


Well it is hard to give a solid answer as to why it is not working for you per se. The fact that we do not know exactly how you are doing it, and what it is that you want to happen makes it a bit more difficult to answer at least for me.

Alright, I use something similar to petitions but they are not so much petitions exactly. I use sigils. Lately in regards with LOA I have been combining the process of LOA, asking, believing, manifesting results, along with Chaos magic and sigil work.

The question is what is it you are trying to bring about? For instance wanting something to Happen- a change- like bringing about an opportunity for a job interview, may feel a little different than manifesting a dollar for soda you see?

The way I have found these things work better for me is to bring about my perception to the level of bringing about a very important job interview, and bringing about a dollar for a pepsi, is going to feel the exact same way.

Which means my perceptions will have to change- a very important interview, is going to have to begin to feel as easy and simple to bring into my world as a simple dollar.

There can be no doubt. I will have to raise faith that acquiring something larger is as simple as bringing to my world 50 cents.

Some like to look at magic like belief is not what sets the gears to bring it about and for others, much of a successful ritual, spell, magical working is based off of the belief.

This is the way it is for much of Chaos magic, belief plays an important role.

There are other types of magic however that use different methods.

I can not tell you what is going wrong with your petitions, as you should know better than any of us. It is you who has written it.

I will offer though, that you've said you feel there is something missing.

Well isn't that it then? Why is it you feel anything is missing? What do you feel is wrong with your own method? Because I see nothing wrong at all with the method you are using in and of itself? So what is blocking your results whether it be a spell or to manifest?

By nature, if you feel something is missing then something is.

Because that is how you feel about it.

By nature, your feelings that something is not right, or missing makes it so, clouds the mind with doubts.

Then so, how could what it is you want to bring about manifest? You are not sending it out with proper power ratio.

Sounds as if you are performing your method- and then letting doubts set in. As soon as you feel something is missing or wrong by will it will be.

Try feeling that you've done it right.

Feeling that there is nothing missing.

Perhaps not focus so much into the how of how the magic works, and concentrate instead only on that it will.

Best of luck.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby casnarl » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:03 pm

I think you're probably spot on about my belief in it being what's missing and my doubt being the cause of why it's not working. It's hard for me to grasp how writing something on a piece of paper does anything, and as a result is probably self-fulfilling.
So maybe petitions just aren't my thing, and I should stick to the candles, herbs, oils etc that I do have more faith in.
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Re: How Exactly does Petitioning Work?

Postby HopefulChild » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:09 am

Also consider please that magic is not a shortcut. Magic is the long way around to making sure that your "request" is balanced with the other plans, and vectors, that are being worked on your behalf for the future already.

Imagine that you asked an elephant to dance so that it could shake the ground enough to break loose an apple high in an apple tree.

There are dozens of ways to get that apple. Requesting that the elephant dance is the method that causes the least impact to the tree, the apple, and your immediate time.

Instead of immediately busting out into a pop and lock routine it remembered from it's days as one of Janet Jackson's back up dancers, the elephant decides to do some other tasks that require it to walk around the tree consistently, causing the same effect, but taking more time than dancing, which it did not have time to do at that exact moment anyway, so it multi-tasked.

The other thing that has to happen is that you have to keep your eye on the apple, and be ready to catch it once it is free of the tree.

And then thank the elephant.
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