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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Xiao Rong » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:09 pm

Hi Rothko, good question ... I personally think that the future is not fixed, so it would be really difficult for me to tell an unexpected tragedy in their future (only patterns as they are currently unfolding); that's why I've never really had to consider that question.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby lilacnyellow » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:26 am

I seem to see the things people want hidden. Like their opinions about an issue. I keep things to myself if not relating to the specific issue. I'd not tell someone of a cheating spouse if they are asking for information about money. No matter what I pick up on. If I thought someone was in danger then yes I'd warn them in a gentle way. People are trusting us with their inner selves so I use tack and respect.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby planewalker » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:07 pm

Be careful of client-reader privilege. If some other government agency asks for information, and you refuse outright, you may be held criminally liable depending upon the type of information . The thing to do is fight this sharp force with elasticity. You can not be forced by an agent of the government to commit criminal acts. Just agree to give any aid needed after you have checked with your lawyer. Go to legal aid if you need to.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:02 pm

Divination influences the affairs of others just as does spell casting and whomever employs magic in whatever form when interfacing with another assumes a degree of responsibility. "An ye harm none" is a difficult thing to foresee into the distant future. We should use great care and deep forethought when casting magick. Frivolous use of power may have far reaching consequences.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:33 pm

Interesting that many who claim not to believe in paranormal phenomenon non-the-less avoid being around one who is thought to possesses such abilities. Being a retired Agency "Spook" I attend the joint annual reunion of Special Operations Commandos, Air America, CIA and NSA active and retired at Hurlburt AB in Ft. Walton Beach, Florida each October. Only a few of us are "Spooks" (ex Star Gate) and we notice that we are avoided like the plague. People who know nothing about us sense we are able to intuitively see skeletons in their closet so to speak and that makes most very uncomfortable. Perhaps that might be one reason Christians tend to avoid Witches and hold us in contempt. Even though we are officers of the Agency it extends no fuzzy feelings for us because the key to keeping national secrets is to confine them to only those who have a specific need to know. The Agency never knows what we might have ferreted beyond our need to know and that keeps them very nervous. They need us and they can't control us.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby SnowCat » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:44 pm

That brings up the question of "who decides, who needs to know?" I know Donald Trump seems to think that he knows it all, and that any and all information should be shared with him. I think that would be insanely dangerous. On the other paw, people have died due to critical information being withheld, under the "need to know," clause. Nothing I can prove, but I still know.

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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:33 pm

The Donald is currently behaving a wee bit badly. I hope it is just the shock of entering the quagmire on Capitol Hill and that he will acquire some bearing and behave more responsibly as time passes. Sort of a loose cannon at the moment and making lots of folks nervous. As POTUS he does have a need to know much of what is happening nationally and abroad. That being said he will soon realize not any President has ever been granted total access to the black arena. And that's for his own good and the good of the Nation. Eisenhower and Bush Sr. probably knew the most.

His disdain for scientific council, lack of understanding global warming and seeming pandering to the religious establishment is very upsetting. Also he recently released some classified tidbits about emp development that would have been better unsaid, probably a slip of the tongue but the Commander and Chief should know better.

We need the change and fresh blood at the helm but he needs to be careful and he must get the Democrats and the few snake in the grass Republicans to work for the common good.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:04 pm

SnowCat wrote:That brings up the question of "who decides, who needs to know?" I know Donald Trump seems to think that he knows it all, and that any and all information should be shared with him. I think that would be insanely dangerous. On the other paw, people have died due to critical information being withheld, under the "need to know," clause. Nothing I can prove, but I still know.

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A security over-sight team, to include a federal monitor at the originating facility, recommends who needs to know and the level of security. Most facilities engaged in security critical activity have internal access restrictions to secure areas within the facility. (Just because you have access to lab A doesn't mean you can wander into lab B even if the same project is being developed in both labs ) Final determination at the federal level is made by a minimal review panel of technical experts experienced in the field and in global intelligence. Only an over view is disclosed and may be presented piecemeal to various experts to minimize the possibility of any one individual having access to the entire package.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby planewalker » Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:20 pm

Personally I miss the headie days of The First Earth Battalion. I vote for Bush SR. Headed the CIA, Ike had been away from the military to a degree. Doesn't everybody know that when intelligence dissemination is mentioned we just say, "We have No Such Agency !" "Can't Imagine Anybody !"

What do you think of DARPA finally taking Einstienian "spooky action at a distance" seriously as an undetectable, unbreakable form of communication.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby SnowCat » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:55 pm

I heard from someone who worked with Bush Sr., that he wasn't good at listening. If he didn't like what someone was telling him, he ignored it. Probably not the smartest way to do things.

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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:08 pm

Non-local entanglement is not just a characteristic of Quantum physics, it IS Quantum physics. Of course DARPA is playing with Quantum computers as secure communications on the web and beyond. So far we have to potentiate entanglement by marrying particles/waves and then splitting them... but... from the CIA Star Gate activities we now know there is a degree of entanglement everywhere in everything across space-time residual from the creation event singularity. In Star Gate we are beyond remote viewing and now engage in bi-location instantly anywhere by linking to the force where we wish to become cognizant. If you are watching Morgan Freeman's "Through the Wormhole" you may have seen his latest presentation about science becoming aware of "The Force" as a reality. It seems the Cosmos is alive and entangled with a form of consciousness pervading everywhere and every when. Wicca/Witchcraft has been toying with the Force as the modus operandi of our Magic to influence probabilities in the realm of matter and Spirit.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:12 pm

SnowCat wrote:I heard from someone who worked with Bush Sr., that he wasn't good at listening. If he didn't like what someone was telling him, he ignored it. Probably not the smartest way to do things.

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We are all probably guilty of turning off from a conversation once we have figured out what is going to be said or if in light of superior understanding realize information imparted is untruthful or flawed.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby planewalker » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:30 pm

"TTWH" is good. I like to monitor college courses. I still need a couple science calculators and a text book or two when I play with the subject of QP. Not anything I got a degree in. I have to worry about math and science courses from30+/-years ago. I've done the other end of the spear so after my vns and cns took a beating I was much more concerned with the AWC though we bounce stuff back and forth with ODCI.
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Re: Ethics of Divination and Seership

Postby Shekinah » Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:18 pm

I have done business with ODNI concerning Noetic science (my specialty). They and the Agency are a wee bit in conflict as we, like all humans, do not share well. Sharing compromises security and there are some things ODNI has no need to know. Anyone who claims to understand QP is lying. :-) We attempt to tame it but cannot hope to understand it. Not even the big boys have been able to enlighten us completely.

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