*~* Witchcraft and Wicca Forum *~* EUTM


Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

For discussion and questions about Gods and Goddesses.

Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby WildFlower93 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:57 am

So what I mean is, I'm dedicated to Jesus, and Diana, and I think I want to dedicate myself to Durga/Kali too. Is that ok? I would worship them all separately, never call them all together lol I can only imagine it would be madness.

Is it ok? Do others do this? Jesus chose me himself, Diana appeared for me when I needed a friend, and Durga/Kali I've worked with already for a while and love her because she is so protective and I need that (I have PTSD).
User avatar
WildFlower93
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
Location: England
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby SpiritTalker » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:21 am

People do everything imaginable with variable results. It depends on your concept of worship and commitment, and how far you want to develop a relationship with a god-form, & how much you let it change you; working with god-forms ultimately changes us. It might help you to define your objective. Does this require a "specialist" for each task? Gods can multi-task. Would a spirit guide or guardian be more accessible? They don't require worship.

Mixing pantheons within magical work is unpredictable, and conflicting, as you are aware. I don't think we can mix and match within meditation either. The psyche is fragmented enough by daily living, so working with god-forms one at a time probably is best.

(Edit-see lower post.)

I'm thinking of the Hindu forms, and how Hinduism is the over-all unity expressed by an incredible number of individual god-forms. Hindus seem to manage well with multiple gods. what is the Hindu equivalent of Diana? Or Jesus? Does that work for you as a way to blend energies?

Or, for discussion, what is it in Diana that speaks to you? And in Jesus? In Durga-Kali? You can ask them directly in meditation to elucidate. It's whatever you can get your head around. Are gods individual beings in your understanding? Or are they facets of the same gem, one yet many-sided? It's OK to use what makes sense to you, not what anybody else does. Just know why you are doing what you do to keep your balance. If it's too fractured, re-do. If it's not specific enough, re-do. Keep adjusting until you suddenly say "ahh, that's it."
User avatar
SpiritTalker
EUTM Support
EUTM Support
 
Posts: 5191
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:51 am
Location: Michigan, USA
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby WildFlower93 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:50 am

I do believe the gods are individuals, although maybe connected by common themes but it doesn't mean they are all essentially the same to me. I feel like I have a different relationship with each of them too and wouldn't be happy picking another deity within the same pantheon to represent them. I wouldn't work with them all together in one ritual because it doesn't make sense to me - they represent different philosophies, theologies, times and cultures, ect. But I would work with them separately.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
WildFlower93
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
Location: England
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby tutmosis » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:13 pm

I actually practice this, I mix Egyptian and Hindu gods together with no problem or bad energies.

If you feel like doing this too, then try it. I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I actually have a Hindu goddesses miniature statue together with an Egyptian obelisk dedicated to Ra. Like I said, no bad energies and they are fine with this.

Working like this requires an open mind, which would make it easier for your brain to comprehend. Try to feel your heart and follow your inner guidance to what's right for you.
User avatar
tutmosis
 
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:16 pm

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby Lady_Lilith » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:33 pm

Strangely, in South India, people started mixing Hinduism and Catholicism. In their version, Kali is worshiped alongside Mother Mary and is considered her "sister". I don't see anything wrong with it. People have done it for centuries.
"Often I will spin a tale, never will I charge a fee. I'll amuse you an entire eve, but, alas, you won't remember me. What am I?" -Sloth
User avatar
Lady_Lilith
 
Posts: 861
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:26 pm
Location: 9th layer of the underworld
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby SpiritTalker » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:19 pm

I concede to Tutmosis and Lady Lilith as they both work with various god-forms, and I have only ever worked with one. I'm giving feed back from what I've read, whereas they have hands on experience.
User avatar
SpiritTalker
EUTM Support
EUTM Support
 
Posts: 5191
Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:51 am
Location: Michigan, USA
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby WildFlower93 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:37 am

Thank you all again, I never knew Kali and Mary were worshipped side by side as sisters. Cool :)

In reply to tutmosis, I wonder if I gradually introduce them to each other they will be ok with each other.
User avatar
WildFlower93
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
Location: England
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby tutmosis » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:48 am

I think so. If anything they'll let you know how they feel.
User avatar
tutmosis
 
Posts: 484
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:16 pm

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby WildFlower93 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 am

I think Diana/Durga will be ok together but I worry about Jesus since he does come from a monotheistic tradition. I feel maybe it would be disrespecting him to invoke him with other 'foreign' deities.
User avatar
WildFlower93
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
Location: England
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby Lady_Lilith » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:24 am

Folk Catholicism is pretty popular and he is evoked with other gods. I don't think he minds.
"Often I will spin a tale, never will I charge a fee. I'll amuse you an entire eve, but, alas, you won't remember me. What am I?" -Sloth
User avatar
Lady_Lilith
 
Posts: 861
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:26 pm
Location: 9th layer of the underworld
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby WildFlower93 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:46 pm

So true, you are right, thanks for reminding me :)
User avatar
WildFlower93
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:57 am
Location: England
Gender: Female

Re: Dedication to multiple unconnected Patrons?

Postby planewalker » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:15 pm

I think your looking at the picture of Jesus as being a jealous God. He has been painted that way by the church establishment(s). The different sects of Christianity have some differences, but they all want you to worship their way. All other ways are suspect, Lip service to a milder approach to views on dogma be d@mned.
The only thing I question is, if you involve Jesus, aren't you involving God the Father {who is a jealous God} and the Holy Spirit {who is invisible, and therefore absent, as they pontificate on their religion}. The worship of, and need of invoking for help, of any aspect could be awkward at least. It could be deadly dangerous at worst. I would make sure it is the healer and teacher that you call. Be very careful with it. I know, I had to go through classes when I was 12 - 13 yrs old for becoming a "member" of the church {That ticked me right off - what was I doing putting part of my allowance in the plate for every week if I wasn't a member}. It tries to instill a background that will keep you in the pews on Sunday. In psychological terms, your being trained to be a part of the cult. One is taken at a formative stage in their life and are made to feel that this way and your OK. Any other way and your immortal soul {which is a concept that your not understanding at that age} is going to burn in he!! with the [)em0ns and the [)evil coming up with tortures just for you. Just remember, when dealing with anything with Christian overtones or backgrounds, this was come up with at the council of Nicea to cement the power in the Roman Empire of the Emperor and a few church prelates. Call on the Rabbi, the philosopher, the healer that Jesus was. I think it is this Jesus who came to you. An entity of peace and love and guidance.
Be careful you don't lapse into Catholic dogma and doctrine when it is Jesus ALONE that you want.
Be a Bandage on a Suffering and B!eeding World.
User avatar
planewalker
Banned Member
 
Posts: 1469
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:46 pm
Location: In my head with all the other inmates. We think one of us is schizophrenic.
Gender: Gender Queer


Return to Gods/Goddesses

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests