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Postby SMushroom » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:49 am

My mom is Christian. and she HATES that i'm a witch. can sumone help me. idk what to do i'm sick of her telling me i'm going to hell and i'm a bad person. and every time i talk to her about it she grounds me :/ its stupid. but she does let me have my tools in the house..sometimes

help plzz :[
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Postby NightRose » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:57 am

I don't know how old you are, but this can be a hard situation at any age. If you don't have the option of moving out, it might be that you just need to drop the issue. You can still practice your religion, but you need to accept that your mother will probably never accept it. Arguing with her isn't going to change her basic moral belief that worshipping anything but God is devil worship.

Now, I'm not telling you to stop being (wiccan, pagan, whatever path you follow). Nor am I telling you to lie to her about it. I'm merely saying...make it a less visible issue. Keep your tools tucked away in a drawer and only do rituals in your room when she's not around. Only wear your pentacle or religious symbols (if you have them) under your clothes or when she's not around. If she asks about it, tell her the truth. If not, don't shove it in her face.

Now, I assume you've tried explaining the basics of your religion to her, though I don't know how far you've gotten. It might be a good idea to get her a basic Paganism/Wicca book. Even if she gets upset over that, she may at least read it, and realize you aren't getting yourself into a cult or satanism. Personally, I recommend "Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religions" by Joyce and River Higgenbotham. It does a good job of covering the basics of Pagan religions, and is a pretty tame book. Maybe it'll help, and maybe she'll refuse to read it. I couldn't tell you. But it gives her the choice, instead of having to confront it face-to-face in an argument with you.
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Re: Christian

Postby RuneGeek » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:35 pm

SMushroom wrote:My mom is Christian. and she HATES that i'm a witch. can sumone help me. idk what to do i'm sick of her telling me i'm going to hell and i'm a bad person. and every time i talk to her about it she grounds me :/ its stupid. but she does let me have my tools in the house..sometimes

help plzz :[


I'm 45 and - of course - no longer live with mom. I love her, but she's the same way... pretty much convinced that I'm going to "hell' and won't listen to reason at all. Since we don't live together - nor even see each other that often - it's not too much of a problem, but it has definitely driven a wedge between us that prevents closeness to a degree.
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Re: Christian

Postby SMushroom » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:18 am

RuneGeek wrote:
SMushroom wrote:My mom is Christian. and she HATES that i'm a witch. can sumone help me. idk what to do i'm sick of her telling me i'm going to hell and i'm a bad person. and every time i talk to her about it she grounds me :/ its stupid. but she does let me have my tools in the house..sometimes

help plzz :[


I'm 45 and - of course - no longer live with mom. I love her, but she's the same way... pretty much convinced that I'm going to "hell' and won't listen to reason at all. Since we don't live together - nor even see each other that often - it's not too much of a problem, but it has definitely driven a wedge between us that prevents closeness to a degree.


i'm 16 so i only have 2 more years left then me and my boyfriend who is also wiccan can have our tools out in the open and all that fun stuff..i'm slowley counting the days...my mom will still be on my @$$ but i dont have to see her everyday..i love my mom too but..she is ggrrrrrr
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Postby Argent » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:57 pm

I am sorry to hear that you have this problem with your mum. My mother never knew of my views on Wiccan or Paganism (she passed away in 2003) but I do know that she would never of understood and probably freaked out at me (and I was in my late 40's when she died) in a way I am thankful I never had to cross that bridge. I am fortunate that I have a great wife who trys to understand the things that I believe and leaves me to it. I wish you well and hope that there will be an understanding between you soon. Bu t I notice that she is not totally closed minded, so there is hope. Be patient!
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Postby Granamyr » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:06 pm

It might be helpful to remember that your mother loves you and sees you making what is to her a very, very dangerous choice. Any mother would warn her child away from such things and condemn any action the child took to keep said thing(s) in their life. To her, it's like you're hiding drugs in your room and she's not going to let drugs in the house. You know?

Maybe share with her that you understand her perspective and are open to talking about it openly and honestly if she wants to. More than likely she feels like you're rejecting a part of her by not following Christianity. She may feel like she did something wrong in raising you. She may be blaming herself for your Wiccan ways! :wink:

Try turning up the level of peace and understanding you have for her, and she may open up to talking with you even if she won't ultimately agree with your way. She will know you've made an informed decision and respect you for it. *two cents*
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Postby Maybe » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:44 am

Hey, I have the exact same problem with my dad!

He is a christian, his whole family is, and it's very hard for me to try to be who I am and at the same time try to be a part of the family.
Though I've had really long conversations with my dad and I've come to thinking that actually his beliefs are not that christian after all, he just doesn't want to, and cannot, admit that his beliefs differ from his family. That would be a huge disaster, you know.

There have been times when my dad has told me not to read books about witchcraft, that I have to take down my altar, that I can't wear my pentagram, 'cause it's a "symbol of the Bride of Satan". Though I've tried to explain that this has nothing to do with satan, I jsut do not believe in that being no matter what. But for him it seems to be a little hard to believe.

Of course I understand his fears - he's afraid of me going to follow the "dark path", he's afraid of losing me, he's afraid that I'll do something really terrific while casting spells. He's actually told me that he believes in magic, but he thinks it's a bad thing, since magic doesn't work with (the chriatian) god, but draws energy from the human being itself.

There is no way I - or you SMushroom either - could make my parents convinced about witchcraft being a peaceful and good craft, at least from the parts we're practicing.
So what I've decided is that I try to keep a low profile. I do wear a pentacle at times, but I don't make it a huge issue. I do practice magic, but I do it so that nobody notices. And when me and my dad have these arguments about religion or witchcraft, I try to tell him that I really try to understand him, it's hard for him to accept me believing in something completely different. I've even told him that I've tried to "let Jesus in my heart" as the christians say, but for me it just won't work, my heart is saying Pagan Pagan Pagan, and I've explained that it's even hard for me, that it's very hard that people always have misconceptions and prejudices and that I can't show in public what I actually am from the inside.

If you really try to let your mom know that this is not a choice you've made in order to get your mom to freak out, but that your blood is drawing you to the path of witchcraft, and you just can't rebel against it, or it would feel absolutely horrible.
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Postby theSeeker » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:29 pm

Honestly all that you can really do is to ask her to please stop or you will no longer be able to visit or talk with her as her words hurt you.... but do her give her the right to pray for you (her belief system) if she must but not were you can hear it. ((( hugs )))
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Postby theSeeker » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:45 pm

P.S.

I guess I am what some would call a Pagan Christian as I have twenty years planted in the Christian Faith and yet I know (have always known) that there was some thing more out there... some thing beyond that of a book or building... some thing with loved and accepted for every thing and every one as it stood today - unchanged... and it is in this finding of spiritual knowledge that I am able to view my self as privileged to have had such a good spiritual foundation - a foundation that I can now build my own higher calling around.


... blessing to those that are still lost in the pages of a book.
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Postby LearsFool » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:12 am

That is the horror of most followers of Christianity.

My advice if you can call it that is not very comforting, but it is what I always say to such situations.

Just have faith in your beliefs, and know that, sadly, your mother is never going to understand. That is a painful thing to go through, and it leads many to pretend they are Christian just to keep family happy. But do not do so if your soul does not call you to that religion.

The sooner you let go of any idea that you mother will accept you for what you are, the better you will start to feel. Tragic, but true. She will never change.
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