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[RuneGeek]

What I've been saying is educated speculation and logic.

Which, when it comes to the subject of extra-terrestrials (or ultra-terrestrials) is pretty much all any of us have.

I kind of like it that way. Life should have its share of mystery.

[hicksfan]

Do you have proof of your own? Nooooooo...
What I've been saying is educated speculation and logic.

i was merely commenting on patterns of the visual descriptions by multiple people and the contradictions inherent in those claims. i feel i provided proof of those contradictions. you had specific names for beings of your educated speculation and logic, lending one to believe it was more than speculation on your behalf.

[Imalorki]

The Tree People and Sky People and that...those are called trees and birds. I don't treat them as if they were subservient,lower than 'us'. They are People(people are not necassarily humans. humans are humans)

[hicksfan]

The Tree People and Sky People and that...those are called trees and birds. I don't treat them as if they were subservient,lower than 'us'. They are People(people are not necassarily humans. humans are humans)

i'm starting to follow you. i hold all forms of life as equal, as our greatest of grandfathers on this planet was photosynthetic bacteria. birds are cute until you realize they're little lizards that evolved wings, then they get a little creepy. there's as many specie of bird as there are all other specie of animal, some 135 million specie.

we have a female cardinal that has made a nest in the burning bush just outside our kitchen window, the nest is about 18" from our kitchen window. we try just to observe but we freak her out so we close the blind for her. she's got enough to worry about.

[Imalorki]

lol Creepy bird lizard things

[Xal]

In my opinion I believe that aliens are just foreign travelers from other dimensions and other realms. I believe that yes there is life other than our planet's inhabitants in ours but not ones that travel. Ones content on just staying where they are. We aren't the Center of the Universe, nor the only ones. We are just arrogant little ants on a planet that deserves better.

and on the subject of Dimensions and Inter-Dimensional Traveling the Bermuda Triangle and its opposite somehwere in China are portals like that. And you can cause such things by creating black holes with PRECISE calculations (unless you just want to end up anywhere...or appear randomly in the core of a star).

A lot of angels, guides and other such spirits would also be what we think of as aliens or E.T.s

However a lot of these E.T.s that exist in higher dimension than we do currently, are helping us move upward.

[ilya]

Hi I'm a new member hear. Personally i believe aliens are demons and you should stay clear of them, I believe in the law of attraction and if you get into aliens you will attract them. please stay away from them.

P.S. demons hate love so as long as you love, you are protected

[ilya]

Hi I'm a new member hear. Personally i believe aliens are demons and you should stay clear of them, I believe in the law of attraction and if you get into aliens you will attract them. please stay away from them.

P.S. demons hate love so as long as you love, you are protected

p.p.s. i do not think the aliens are trying to move us forward that's just what they want us to believe, there real intentions are evil and dark

[shadowx]

demons hate love so as long as you love, you are protected

Wiccan?

how do you know aliens are ALL bad?

[ilya]

demons hate love so as long as you love, you are protected

Wiccan?

how do you know aliens are ALL bad?

I do not know that all aliens are bad I just believe that, why would aliens bother coming to our messed up planet. I did not invent this theory though there is this famous metaphysician called Stuart Wilde, he goes in to other worlds and has seen in the Aluna world these demons, and he believes that the aliens are demons. To me it just feels right. If you want to know more about him this is his blog. http://www.stuartwildeblog.com/

[shadowx]

Why do you sit outside in nature and watch the animals? Why does a child watch an ants nest under a magnifying glass? Why does a dog sniff the ground so intently?

Curiosity.

Why do we search for aliens? Curiosity. Why might aliens search for us? ...

[ilya]

We have different points of view the main thing is we are thinking for our self and not conforming like every one else.

[shadowx]

Indeed. Too many people out there like the idea of battling against a dark force. I'm not saying you are one of them but as someone else has said many times on this forum, in essence the world, and the spirit world, is not black and white, or grey and grey. It simply *is*.

Is it possible for you to resize your avatar? It is *huge!!!!!* And im using an extra large screen and it still takes up most of the page

go to http://resize2mail.com/

and tick the "75%" smaller button and then follow the steps.

[Xal]

I looked over his website and his blogs and he seemed like he was saying some pretty interesting stuff. That is until I came to this:

http://www.heavylight.de/oscommerce/cat ... 3ad2b14ea1

Apparently he's selling penlights for thousands of dollars. Even if they really did what he claims they do I have a hard to believing an enlightened soul would be charging the prices that he is. Especially when he says in one of his blogs "I live in hotels mostly and I have two suitcases and a computer, I don’t have possessions or debts so I don’t need much money."

I am also skeptical of anyone who doesn't understand that what they are experiencing is personalized and not how it is for everyone. From the way he describes things this does not seem to be the case.

As for aliens I couldn't find anything at least at a quick glance through his site. I'm curious if you have a direct link to his opinion on it.

For why E.T's would want to help us, why do angels, spirits guides, people. Why does any being want to help us. Why do we give to charity? We do we try to help the poor?

Mix that in with the fact that at least some E.T's have to be older than us and more spiritually advanced, and when they are they would have no reason but to help us. That's really all there is to life when you get down to it.

[Xal]

I also agree with shadowx on the whole good vs evil thing. If in high school I figured out that good and evil are only based on preconceived notions of reality that no one knows the answers too I would assume that more advanced intergalactic E.T's and spirits would realize that too.